RoR, yep, right, but plus, Ben will travel from Germany via Austria or Switzerland ( I guess..) to Italy ( +1 country), then, from Turkey he will cross Bulgaria and Romania to reach Ukraine (+2 countries), from Ukraine he will travel to France via Poland, Germany and (probably, but likely) Belgium (+2 countries). thus, 8+1+2+2=13. ( ok, if Ben goes to France without crossing Belgium it's 12 countries - but just as I can see -the route to Lille is shortest via Belgium, so he will likely cross it too...)Thats my female logic
( and I'm almost sure I'm wrong somewhere
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