James monthly income with the Scorpions

[flyingvee]

It's getting ugly with Athena and all the press in TMZ and Blabbermouth. At this pace James will be lucky to finish off this tour. Of course that's her side of the story and there always are two sides, but it's not making him look good right now.

[Deleted User 13688]

Athena doesn't go on that show for the main reason of bashing James, she was asked to do this show and whatever questions she is asked by the interviewer or one of the girls, she simply answers truthfully. She has told me that this show is NOT ABOUT JAMES, never was, never will be. If some of you (those who don't fit in this group, I am not including you, kay ) don't want to hear his sins and transgressions, then maybe he shouldn't have done what he did. Stop making Athena the bad guy just cuz she is on a show that is showing James as he is behind closed doors and the ugly side of this marriage, etc. And stop being mislead by b.s. and lies. Athena was and is a victim in this tragedy. She is sooo over it and wants to move on. BUT if she is asked sthg about her and James, of course she is going to answer it with the truth. Besides, and I will say it again, becuz of this show, James has felt that he needs to retaliate by going to these other avenues to get dirt out on her. This has been very very hard on me as James called me his sister last year and I truly felt close to him. But I see that Athena has been victimized with his cheating and other things I won't go into that others have revealed. This is NOT bashing the Scorpions like I was, I have realized that the boys have treated me good and I have apologized to certain ones, however, I am with Athena on this issue. Nuff said....let her be, she is NOT the devil in this. And if any of you say one time that it's none of our biz, then tell that to James. kay?

[Gabi6912]

I remember reading an interview with Athena some years ago in this forum.
It was the very first interview I read with Athena indeed.
I was touched by her love, ahh rather adoration about James.
It always make me sad, and shocked where two people can reach in their love relationship.
From a total love to a total hate.
At least they would keep a kinda respect with each other, and I mean it about both sides.

[Deleted User 13688]

I know what you mean Gabi, it would be really nice if they had separated amicably, but the whole time Athena was raising their children, James was sadly being the typical randy rockstar and cheating on her. My heart was with James until I heard Athena's side. And altho I hate more than anything to take sides, what JK did was just wrong and disgusting. I so wish he hadn't.

[flyingvee]

What is annoying here is that you've already acted like judge and jury and deemed James to be guilty. Which he may be, but you leave out the part about Athena now being sober for 9 months which means before that SHE WAS NOT, and thats why they deemed her unsuitable to have the kids. Not blaming her and I commend her for sobering up, but as we said, it happened behind closed doors, so none of you know nothing of the truth. Just that fcat that both of them were not responsible. Period.

As it pertains to this forum is whether this publicity looks bad for the Scorpions or not. Probably not as TMZ is typical US trash and wont affect Europe. But it might affect whether James is retained as drummer beyond this year.

[Deleted User 13688]

What is annoying is that James has already proven to be guilty and in true male solidarity you stand behind the rockstar and not the woman, who may have had trouble with the drinking, but still raised those kids for years while James was on the road having a good ol time.
And if James is not retained, blame it on the alcohol and the need to talk to TMZ. I adored that man, he was my friend and like a brother, so don't you dare insult me and what I have said. You think it's easy to see that man self-destruct, falling off his drumstage and having to make a public apology? You have no clue how terrible it is to see him do this to himself and to his family. See, he wasn't the one left hurting and devastated...he's moved on with the band and someone else. SMH Now I am done with this....

[flyingvee]

True male solidarity? You women wrote the book on backing each other even when it's obvious to the world tha you may be guilty. I'm not letting James off the hook, but I'm also not going to say that Athena was the poor innocent victim you proclaim her to be.

I think you need to take step back and re-evaluate the words you are using on here. You knew him as a brother? Do you know what it means to be a brother? Just because you corresponded with him once in a while does not make him like a brother. You insult me and made a mockery of what true brothers are. The guys I grew up with, played in bands together, we bonded for years, those are brothers.

You know I like you, but you have to stop doing this *** where you create the notion that you are feeling the pain of a family from James actions. James was the same guy before he joined the Scorpions with Kingdom Come and others, he did not fall apart on your watch.

It's nothing new. She knew who she married as did the wives of Klaus, Rudy and Matthias, that's their livelihood, they have to be on the road.

And for the record, she lost custody of the kids. Now for a US court to do that, and we know the US court ALWAYS sides with the mother, you know she must have been a mess. So don't paint hr the innocent angel.

[Funnynunny]

True male solidarity? You women wrote the book on backing each other even when it's obvious to the world tha you may be guilty. I'm not letting James off the hook, but I'm also not going to say that Athena was the poor innocent victim you proclaim her to be.

I think you need to take step back and re-evaluate the words you are using on here. You knew him as a brother? Do you know what it means to be a brother? Just because you corresponded with him once in a while does not make him like a brother. You insult me and made a mockery of what true brothers are. The guys I grew up with, played in bands together, we bonded for years, those are brothers.

You know I like you, but you have to stop doing this *** where you create the notion that you are feeling the pain of a family from James actions. James was the same guy before he joined the Scorpions with Kingdom Come and others, he did not fall apart on your watch.

It's nothing new. She knew who she married as did the wives of Klaus, Rudy and Matthias, that's their livelihood, they have to be on the road.

And for the record, she lost custody of the kids. Now for a US court to do that, and we know the US court ALWAYS sides with the mother, you know she must have been a mess. So don't paint hr the innocent angel.

i admit i don't know james and athena personally but in all actually their personal issues should have been left quietly behind close doors even though its out in the open out of anger or attention or whatever...but its still not our business what went on between the 2 of them in my opinion and yes cristy you need to back down you don't know james and athena personally so listen to what flyingv said...he grew up with these guys through thick and thin he knows the meaning of BAND BROTHERS....you're over stepping boundaries that could or can get you in a whole lotta trouble...just saying...flyingv...thank you for posting what you posted...you freakin rock dude!

[fos daddy]

Thank God Im not married
Wait
Whats that ?
No im not on the computer again
Im .. Im
Im in the basement folding clothes and taking out the trash

[Funnynunny]

Thank God Im not married
Wait
Whats that ?
No im not on the computer again
Im .. Im
Im in the basement folding clothes and taking out the trash

....omg.... ...now thats hilarious fos daddy!

[Deleted User 13688]

And for you to stand up for a rockstar that you know even less than I do, over your friend? well........

And I have nothing to say to the ones you must want to be your friends, which I would seriously listen to Scott on that issue. But they think that they can HAVE James by sticking up for him!!

Anyway, why should I not talk about this when James put it out there for all the world to see? I am not the bad guy here nor am I afraid to not be on his side. Good grief, he's not God ya know!!! It's not like I am blaspheming!!!

However, you have no clue, such as James calling me his sister last year when we were in St. Louis with Savage Amusement. I know him better than you think and I found that you can't be a sister or a friend to a rockstar I guess. I found that out by James himself, not Athena. But I won't say anymore on this thread, it's too cutthroat, too venomous. Athena saw how mean ppl are on here and it hurt her. So this thread is dead to me.

And really Drew, if you did nothing else for me before as a "friend", do this now...let it die. You have your ideas and "friends" and I have mine. nuff said....

[Invitado]

I don`t know either of them close ,and I don`t follow neither the story , nor the show.
So I bet the best thing for me to do would be to shut up my mouth ... yet ..

I haven`t seen pictures of Athena holding and kissing anyone on FB, .... but I did saw those from James.

And of course I`m aware that love eventually dies ..(I`m divorced myself) , but I`m also aware of all the pain that this might cause on the one that has been left ( not me ) and that if you once were in love with that someone you should show some empathy , and maybe not make them suffer any longer showing off with your new love so quick after the split.My point is, something inside me makes me stick to Athena ....just thinking as a woman

[flyingvee]

Cristy, I think too many times you let your emotions run away and you say things you should think twice about. If you read it carefully, I did not take the rockstars side over a friend. what i said was that there are two sides to a story and I did say I was NOT letting James off the hook. But I also was not going to proclaim Athena an angel in the matter. I've talked to her too, in fact both of our mothers had something very unique in common. But I would never say she is like a sister to me. Maybe I have been around the block more so I value friendships more. Maybe you have too much of a trusting heart that make you believe you are closer to people, and then when they let you down it hurts. I mean if you are going to put so much trust into someone as to call them a brother when you don't really know them that well over time, then you set yourself up for disappointment. I never meant to make you feel bad over it. I'm just standing up for being fair. And just because I say don't be quick to judge James does nto mean I am against Athena either. It takes two to tango and no one is perfect nor without falt.
HUGZ

[Deleted User 13688]

I did overstate the brother term cuz in truth, he wasn't as much of one as I thot. But ur right about the trusting heart thing,,,, been so long without being out there in the world so to speak like I used to be, that I have been duped and fooled a lot. And it's been only on here that I have met those who have fooled me. NOT YOU! Funny how I get back out there in the world after not being in it for 15 years and the one place I have been on ever on the internet was here and where I met the evil and the horrid. BUT with that said, I have also met the beautiful and the great!! I still don't know how to act tho since I am still naive about how ppl can be. Never used to be, was a biker chick and used to know ppl better. So I do feel stupid for being duped time and time again.
Anyway, I am officially tired of this topic. Drew, double huggzzz. and thanks hun.

Thanks Adriana, I too feel that way. Thanks for being a strong woman to voice your opinion without being afraid of upsetting James. You go girl! And frankly, I would think that James would be seen as the one that is embarrassing the band. I don't see any of the others showing anything other than a professional performance and attitude. He should look up to them and try to be like them. just sayin....

[charlesinaz]

Twelve thousand dollars a month? Four hundred dollars a day? For all it takes to be a Scorpion?

I'm probably pretty naive about things like this, but I would have guessed that James made a minimum of $250,000 a year playing with the Scorpions. It's true that most rock musicians would be insanely happy with the money James says he's making, but he is reputed to be one of the best drummers in world and plays for what many consider to be one of the best bands in the world. One hundred and forty-four thousand dollars a year isn't very much money at all when viewed through that lens. And after taxes...less than $100,000 take home. To drum for the Scorpions. Unreal.

That being said, I don't think that disclosing that fact was a good idea for James if he wanted to continue on with the band. I know that, if I was paying his salary, I wouldn't want him telling the public how much he makes.

But I don't know much about stuff like this. I'm just surprised; I can tell you for sure that I wouldn't tour for any $400 a day. My auto mechanic makes that much when he is busy.

[Deleted User 13688]

Twelve thousand dollars a month? Four hundred dollars a day? For all it takes to be a Scorpion?

I'm probably pretty naive about things like this, but I would have guessed that James made a minimum of $250,000 a year playing with the Scorpions. It's true that most rock musicians would be insanely happy with the money James says he's making, but he is reputed to be one of the best drummers in world and plays for what many consider to be one of the best bands in the world. One hundred and forty-four thousand dollars a year isn't very much money at all when viewed through that lens. And after taxes...less than $100,000 take home. To drum for the Scorpions. Unreal.

That being said, I don't think that disclosing that fact was a good idea for James if he wanted to continue on with the band. I know that, if I was paying his salary, I wouldn't want him telling the public how much he makes.

But I don't know much about stuff like this. I'm just surprised; I can tell you for sure that I wouldn't tour for any $400 a day. My auto mechanic makes that much when he is busy.

IMHO he doesn't make that.....he was just saying that. Nobody believes it tho.

[Scottss8]

Twelve thousand dollars a month? Four hundred dollars a day? For all it takes to be a Scorpion?

I'm probably pretty naive about things like this, but I would have guessed that James made a minimum of $250,000 a year playing with the Scorpions. It's true that most rock musicians would be insanely happy with the money James says he's making, but he is reputed to be one of the best drummers in world and plays for what many consider to be one of the best bands in the world. One hundred and forty-four thousand dollars a year isn't very much money at all when viewed through that lens. And after taxes...less than $100,000 take home. To drum for the Scorpions. Unreal.

That being said, I don't think that disclosing that fact was a good idea for James if he wanted to continue on with the band. I know that, if I was paying his salary, I wouldn't want him telling the public how much he makes.

But I don't know much about stuff like this. I'm just surprised; I can tell you for sure that I wouldn't tour for any $400 a day. My auto mechanic makes that much when he is busy.

IMHO he doesn't make that.....he was just saying that. Nobody believes it tho.

Well if James is making more then 144k a year and he is only reporting that amount to get through the divorce then we won't have to worry about James playing with the Scorpions beyond 2012.

And i have been quiet about this topic for the past month and have read a number of comments about who's fault is it for the divorce. And my answer is who cares we should be more worried about the 3 kids that have to go through this nasty divorce. And like the old saying goes there are 3 sides to each story ( James, Athena and the truth). We will never know and i really don't care who is at fault. My guess is that it takes to two to tango in a marriage and both parties are not innocent.

[Deleted User 13688]

True!

[fos daddy]

Twelve thousand dollars a month? Four hundred dollars a day? For all it takes to be a Scorpion?

I'm probably pretty naive about things like this, but I would have guessed that James made a minimum of $250,000 a year playing with the Scorpions. It's true that most rock musicians would be insanely happy with the money James says he's making, but he is reputed to be one of the best drummers in world and plays for what many consider to be one of the best bands in the world. One hundred and forty-four thousand dollars a year isn't very much money at all when viewed through that lens. And after taxes...less than $100,000 take home. To drum for the Scorpions. Unreal.

That being said, I don't think that disclosing that fact was a good idea for James if he wanted to continue on with the band. I know that, if I was paying his salary, I wouldn't want him telling the public how much he makes.

But I don't know much about stuff like this. I'm just surprised; I can tell you for sure that I wouldn't tour for any $400 a day. My auto mechanic makes that much when he is busy.

IMHO he doesn't make that.....he was just saying that. Nobody believes it tho.

Well if James is making more then 144k a year and he is only reporting that amount to get through the divorce then we won't have to worry about James playing with the Scorpions beyond 2012.

And i have been quiet about this topic for the past month and have read a number of comments about who's fault is it for the divorce. And my answer is who cares we should be more worried about the 3 kids that have to go through this nasty divorce. And like the old saying goes there are 3 sides to each story ( James, Athena and the truth). We will never know and i really don't care who is at fault. My guess is that it takes to two to tango in a marriage and both parties are not innocent.

You can Tango by yourself if you drink enough Redbull

[Gabi6912]

Haha Tom.

Scott,
I do agree with you in 1000%.
Haha, I like this saying about the 3 sides, so true.