FOS MEETING in MUNICH! December 16th @ 20:00

[Guest]

In order to prevent anymore strife among all the fans of Scorpions I wish to humble myself and delete this post.............Peace

[Adrian]

after that i disappeared from this topic i would post my opinion.
firstly i think all of us should say thank to all the people that have been involved in this project and put in it good and positive ideas to make the december party/meeting a very night to remember.
-I'm agree with the scarfs,i saw the picture of them, and i really like them (to decide which one we'll use).
-i'm not agree to throw them to the stage cause,i'm not sure if we will get them again.it would be a special gift for us with our names printed on, and we will remember that night forever, and we will remember who we were with.
-i put an idea, why not to make 5 more scarfs just for the scorpions, and throw them to the guys, so that they will know exactly who of the FOS was there.
-prices of them in italy are surely more expensive than bulgaria........


Now let's think to the final decision about where there will be the meeting

[onecrazysquaw]

Well I guess you all know that I have not posted on the forum or have participated in any projects at all, and this is the reason is because I will not let my love for the SCORPIONS be tainted by those who would want to have total control of this forum or projects. I am truly disappointed in Mark for not contacting me personally and letting me know why the Poster for Rudolf's B-Day was not processed (some of you know I was in the makings of one) this poster was to be distributed to all the fans who wanted one for their personal video for Rudolf's B-Day. I am aware of the comaradre between fans and those of you who have contact with Mark and since he never has responded to me asking why the poster was not processed it appears that again someone is sabotaging or controlling the work that other fans would like to participate in for The Scorpions and fans of Scorpions (and I was warned of this possibly happening on this forum when I first became a member, by who? The sabotager herself!) although another fan knew Mark was having difficulty with his computer that is the reason given to her why this project between he and I was not developed it is disappointing to know that even though this was a project put together by myself and Mark another fan(s) knew all about it and I still have never been contacted by Mark on any of the details, so that tells me that I am just another fan with no business trying to share ideas, projects or even opinions with others and it is sad that we all have to be like this especially on this forum and have the boys themselves read this. So to all of you who have the power and the word to control all the projects excuse me but I will just stay out of it totally since anything I would try doing would just get shut down like you have managed to shut down a small project like a poster and would sabotage any other project I would get involved in because of jealousy or fear of doing it better than you and that is all about self recognition and self pride and The Scorpions I know are not like that. I wish you all well in Munich I know it will be awesome SCORPSlove to all.....Hast La Vista Baby!

As much as you'd like to throw the blame..Just know your facts first...
I havent talked to Mark in AGES...
I dont think for him...nor do I tell him who and who not to work with...
Currently I believe he's on another project and just busy...Yes his system took a dump, he lost a lot of data.
YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!..so stop it!

My name is thrown around here like you all think its okay to do it...I am NO Sabotager,,so save it.
please refrain from doing so in the future..PM me of you have any issues...

I offered the F.O.S. posters as my/Marks own participation...
ANYONE can offer their work...THE MORE THE BETTER!!!
Thanks Joanne for your hard work...
Curry - Thanx for pointing that out..I hate when my name is used, Thank You for straightening it out.
THE F.O.S. name is ALL of us..We all own that name...

I dont want to cause drama..Just state facts
MUCH SUCCESS TO YOU WHO ARE ORGANISING!
dont let bad seeds slow ya down..

STING ON!!!.

P.S. "Always make sure your words come out soft and sweet, you never know when you may have to eat them"

[onecrazysquaw]

Just got a reply from Mark after showing him your statement...
I AM CLEARING THIS UP!
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FROM MARK TO VALERIE:

Hi Val. I just got word & read the the post you made regarding me not getting back to you & sabatoging your project & I want to right off the bat express my sincere apologies for missing your deadline.

I in NO WAY meant to miss it, For the record I have never talked to anyone regarding anything you wanted/needed & in NO WAY meant to blow you off on the the posters you wanted,

It is my ENTIRELY my own fauly for letting you down & i want you to know that i am Very VERY Sorry.. I just re-read all of our email correspondance & see you said the deadline was August 28 . I cross referenced it with the calander I use to keep track of everything I do & I see that I mistakenly put down OCTOBER 28.

VAL I am SO Sorry.

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Never once did Scorpia mention Mark cleared my name of her accusations!

SMH

[Guest]

This post has been hijacked

[Scorplady]

...Wait. What?

I'm not sure what Rudolf's Birthday video has to do with the Munich gathering and it's obvious that you gals have had a major falling out for whatever reason. Why bring it here? Start a new thread called CAT FIGHT and go at it, don't forget a few hisses too.

If you want to help with the Munich gathering - great we are going to need it, if you just want to wish us well - hey we appreciate that too! Leave the drama for another time. (This goes for everyone!)

Speaking of which, I haven't set up the mailing list yet, it's been one of those crazy world kind of weeks and it's only Monday. But soon and if anyone has any ideas for cool things to put in gift bags that don't cost a lot, please let me know.

[Guest]

My intention by posting this was to give an example to all that those of us that would like to voice our opinion on projects do not do so because there are those who would want to control everything and when we do or have tried it is shot down. I am so new and yet have had the experience to just stay out of it and like I said if the shoe fits wear it and is intended for you know who you are.....................

[Scorplady]

Well Scorpia if you feel you can't post your thoughts here, you can always contact me in other ways too.

Great ideas are always welcome.

[onecrazysquaw]

ORGANIZERS-
I apologize for taking this off topic,

I JUST WANNA PROMOTE IN A HAPPY WAY...
Sheeesh!!!!!

[onecrazysquaw]

Joannee, I will PM you from now on..(Idont need this sh!t)
Happy Planning!

[Gabi6912]

Yes, I also would be happy if this topic was just about the Munich gathering, not about personal hurts, and being hurts.
Val, don't forget: if you attack anybody evenif she is Paula, or anybody else, or Mark Reiser, you aren't better than they are, because you also fight, and you also just want a kind of attention.

So, back to Munich, fanmates, please.

[Guest]

My posts have been reported to the administrators I am deleting not because of fear of being blocked or having my membership cancelled but to inform you all of how sick and paranoid my agressor is and nothing will stop her from trying to make me appear to be an evil person. Those of you who have a FB account and are friends with me know well I am not hostile or aggressive yet this sick individual wants to depict me as someone who talks behind her back yet I have addressed her directly and now has managed to get other fans to ridicule me and this is witchctraft and want nothing to do with it.

[Guest]

Yes, I also would be happy if this topic was just about the Munich gathering, not about personal hurts, and being hurts.
Val, don't forget: if you attack anybody evenif she is Paula, or anybody else, or Mark Reiser, you aren't better than they are, because you also fight, and you also just want a kind of attention.

So, back to Munich, fanmates, please.

Gabi sorry if you feel that I am attacking or fighting with Paula or Mark, again this is being misinterpreted and I am only mentioning facts. I wish all to read my initial post to see if I mentioned Paula's name at all and I did not say anything against Mark only that he failed to contact me in regards to a project, now is that wanting to fight? I was mentioning the fact that there are many fans who are wanting to control this forum and it appears there is a power struggle here. I do practice freedom of speech and it appears that I can't even do that without someone taking it as a personal attack or telling me what I can or cannot post, so now first handedly I am experiencing exactly what I was warned about. As far as wanting attention I think if I needed attention I would have been posting and trying to gain recognition here on this forum a long time ago and I am glad I haven't done so since this is no place for me to toss my pearls, so with all respect Gabi Please accept my apologies if you have been offended, yes back to Munich!

[onecrazysquaw]

[b]THANK GOD FOR THE IGNORE BUTTON..
CLICK...
b]
I'M OUT!

[Guest]

There is nothing to hide, you did speak against others to me and warned me of something like this happening but you never said you were part of it..............Back to Munich fanmates!!...Don't use your ignore button face the facts and the truth remember it will set you freeeeeee.....Goodnight pleasant dreams!

[Marta]

Okay, enough. I'm usually not against off tops but not this time. These are really your private things and you two could make another topic for it or simply write PMs. I checked this topic this morning and it's really hard to find anything here, it's just one big mess. I understand there are some fights, but it rather concerns the American fans, I don't know what it has to do with our meeting in Munich.

Hmm, thinking again about these giftbags I think there may be some truth about the bags. I'm not sure if I'll use mine, even when going to the shows it's better to take a bag that it waterproof I hope you don't mind Del, it's just the thing we want to cut costs whereever it's possible and if I were to choose between the scarf and the bag, I'd definitely choose the scarf.
And we still don't know what about the place. Well' last year in Brussels we went to that pub. We had a few tabled somewhere in the corner where were no people from "otside" of the FOS and thouh it was a place like this, it wasn't too loud. I mean, we could speak freely and me personally had no problems with talking too others. Maybe if there's no other good place, we could hit one of the pubs? Book a few tables before and ask if we can get something far from the bar and the toilets so that nobody would disturb us?

[flyingvee]

Now this is the exact reason why I did not want to participate in the planning of this. Because personal vendettas always come into play and it becomes a joke. The film project is easier cause you just take each individuals video and just make it. Is this a FOS fans gathering or a middle east summit?

[Scorplady]

1. The forum is broken for me, I don't even have a 'quote' button if I could close this thread I would and I want it cleaned up of all these posts that are negative and off topic.

2. Please moderators CLEAN UP THIS THREAD. I beg you, I don't have that power and it wouldn't of gotten this bad if someone had stepped in early (and I don't mean yesterday I mean a week ago). Shame on you for letting this forum get so out of control.

3. Screw this drama - you know what really is important? Friends and family and of course the Scorpions. Right now I'm in the middle of finding out if my beautiful cat will live or die, I've been crying for a week and today I find out more. I couldn't give a damn about you guys and your vendettas right now and I will not be involved. This is dumb and embarrassing to see some of the US fans behave this way. Control yourselves damnit and be adults. Enough of this high school crap.

4. All this drama will NOT stop this Munich gathering from happening. We will meet, we will have fun and we will enjoy the concerts without ANY drama at all. But you know what? You guys won't see or be able to know what we are planning because now because of all of this, we have to take the discussion somewhere else and fans that don't check the forum often might miss out on what I hope is one of the coolest Scorpions fans gathering ever.

5. We are fans and some of us have become friends through this beautiful music we listen to. This isn't a competition to be the #1 fan, put your egos aside and think about your actions, you're not only hurting yourselves but you are hurting all of us on here. This is why we can't have nice things.

6. Everyone else that understands how to respect each other - thank you. I will no longer respond to ANY posts about these stupid drama things. I suggest you do the same.

Now that I've proven I can count to 6...(yay me) I think I'll stop here.

The mailing list for this event will hopefully be created tonight and then we will discuss this on there because we don't have anyone to help us moderate on here. If you know anyone interested in going to the event if they are not sure if they can make it, please let them know or just contact me with their e-mail address.

[onecrazysquaw]

SMH

really?
pfft..figures ...

[Guest]

Just like Joanne said enough ot this crap Look in the mirror a hard look that is where the problem lies. Holly crap ppl like Joanne are trying to do something good for other that they don't even know and all you do is complain and ***.