Olympiahalle-Munich closed until 19th of October

[Invitado]

@ Cristy : Would I feel they deserved to be insulted , I would have no problem to make it public . It`s just not the case.

@ Michelle : We have a say : porque te quiero te aporreo , I`m not sure how it goes in english but it would be something like " because I love you so much I expect more than better from you " and I think it applies on Cristy`s situation.

Regarding to Tom , as far as I had read all his ironic comments are towards Amend and not the band , and I think humor is the better way to ease things .

[Guest]

Okay! enough said about the good, the bad & the ugly can we make this forum the ultimate of what it is suppose to be? Let's all change our mindsets and get back to what we are all here for The Scorpions and their music and that we are fans that support them and love them regardless of their failures and faults since we are all human and all fall into the category of at times not having control of situations that arise in life so we must accept the fact that there is no show in Oct and we need to stop bashing at each other. It appears there is alot of frustration here and we are losing focus of the reason we are on this forum! We are all fans but some of us have a closer connection with them and have become even friends with some of the members and I believe that "if" we are really friends with any of the members we are to be exactly that, a friend is to be a confidante, and you have an intimate relationship with them and not speak against your friend and when things appear to be going wrong you will do what you can to restore that relationship and if that is not the case with you (not pointing fingers) then you are merely a fan and should not consider yourself anything other than that and you cannot be disappointed in what they do or their actions since they do have a personal life of their own and it is really none of our business to be involved in any of their transactions. With that said can we all just take a deep breath, shake it off and get back to what we are all here for The Scorpions, their music, their talent, the love and smiles they have shared with us and whatever the future may hold for them, for us. Let's not blemish the wonderful memories and experiences we have shared as a family who loves The Scorpions, we only live once and I plan on remembering them and their music as a light in the dark during my lifetime with every song they sing that has brought so much joy, hope, inspiration and faith into my life and I believe this is what their messages are based on to touch each and every one of our lives in a special way and bring peace into our hearts and give us the urge to keep pressing on no matter what the circumstances in life may be and The Scorps have done that for me. I hope this inspires everyone to think on these things!

[Deleted User 13688]

Not to mention constant and faithful and loyal 5 1/2 year endeavor at promoting Matthias and MJ Guitars????

Hahahahahaha you were not loyal to Matthias, didn't something private get posted on here a while back that only you knew but shared it with someone else? You blamed it on the person you shared it with for posting it all over the place, but it was YOU who spilled the beans initially. Loyal? me thinks not....

TO CORRECT YOU: SOMETHING GOT POSTED THAT I TOLD SOMEONE IN PRIVATE CUZ I "TRUSTED" THEM AND THEY TURNED AROUND AND TOLD MY ARCH NEMESIS. PAULA SERNA!! WHO THEN DECIDED TO MAKE IT PUBLIC ON THE MJG FB PAGE THAT HIS MANAGER RUNS, BUT THEN STEFAN TOOK IT DOWN AS SOON AS I TOLD HIM WHAT SHE HAD DONE. BUT GUESS WHAT? MATTHIAS FORGAVE ME FOR THAT. SO EAT IT! AND NO, I AM NOT ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS FOR THIS CUZ THIS TIME *I* AM MAKING THIS PUBLIC, NOT SOME OTHER $^%&&%&^ IDIOT!!

And if you hate the band so much and they are such terrible people, why stay on here spewing sewage constantly about them?

TO RAISE AWARENESS? ACTUALLY I'M DONE "SPEWING" THE TRUTH. YOU ALL COULD SEE IT FOR YOURSELVES UP CLOSE AND IN YOUR FACE AND YOU STILL WOULD BE IN DENIAL!!! AS A FRIEND TOLD ME EARLIER, IT DOES NO GOOD POSTING ON HERE CUZ IT'S ONLY EXHAUSTING AND NOT WORTH THE TIME.

To the rest of you who are trying to make this a sided issue, you preach tolerance & positivity but you yourself are not tolerant or positive. I don't care if FOSDaddy has been on here since the beginning of time...that doesn't make him a fan. The dictionary describes a fan as an enthusiastic devotee or an ardent admirer, Cristy, FOSDaddy and their whole little click do not fit this description according to this definition with the way they talk about/bad mouth/criticize the band constantly.

OH OH, SOUNDS LIKE A "P" SYMPATHIZER!!! THIS WILL BE MY LAST TIME ANSWERING YOU, I DON'T FRATERNIZE WITH THE ENEMY.

[Deleted User 13688]

Val, I do want to say that I am so very sorry for all the ranting and raving I have been doing, it's just that when you find out shocking things about the band you so love and have spent a lot of time promoting and supporting them and these "things" are not nice or decent things, well being that I am a Type A personality that gets things out of one's system as opposed to keeping it all locked in, I had a meltdown. But while I am not sorry for all the things I have said cuz I still feel this way, I am sorry that I had to go and make my feelings so public. However, I am more sorry that I had to find out things that made me turn on the "boys"!!! You think that made me feel wonderful? Well it didn't!!! I am so angry with them. I started to turn away after Herman's book, but after hearing more recent stuff from others, it was more than what I could handle and I could not stand by and be fooled by thinking they are these great guys and not say something about it.
Believe me, this has broken my heart and my spirit. That's all......

[Guest]

To Cristy and all those that Love The Scorpions, I cannot apologize for the boys and their actions, I can only tell you that you must spare yourself the agony, hurt, disappointment and anger by forgiving them for whatever acts they have done upon another again they like we are human. Cristy maybe you don't realize what an asset you are to this forum or The Scorps (MJ in particular) since you have followed them and have been a close partner to MJ for so long. I encourage you and all others to put aside whatever it is that is frustrating, disappointing and tearing at your heart about our boys, it doesn't matter what it is, are we not a race of humans that have a heart of forgiveness and it doesn't matter if it is someone like The Scorpions that have popularity or the person next door that will hurt us, wound us or take us for granted, its all about forgiveness doing unto others as you would have done unto you and move forward from there. There is so much that has happened here that I am unawares of but I still discern the jealousy and envy between fans and that alone is discouraging to those of us that wish to be a positive asset to this forum because we still Love The Scorpions. I do know one fan in particular who wants to be #1 and has an answer to everything about the Scorps but that fan doesn't have the knowledge and experiences you have had with the boys and is only a "wanna be", plus an added touch of paranoia that everyone wants to sabotage "the work" that this fan has done for the boys .. I wish we could all be on the same page but some of us have wandered to the closing cover and missed the whole plot to this story and it is all about being human, loving without placing conditions, not passing judgement and loving The Scorpions. It's ok to vent but let it out and let it gooooo and please don't abandon this forum we all really need a person like you that is real and so informed about our boys. I'm sure The Scorpions would be disappointed to know that you are feeling like this I know they have never truly meant to hurt any of their fans and as it is life is full of disappointments so lets just continue putting those things aside and going full force for our boys and be content that we are allowed to hear their songs and be a part of the growing family of Scorpion fans!

[Guest]

I have read the post from the "pissed off" fans. Like I said its not the band fault the buidling is being repaired. Just maybe the band whats to play at this venue for some reason.

Don't if you read the small print on any ticket there is usually a clause stating the date could be change.

If December 17 is the first date available for them so be it. No one said anything about the shows in France being change with just days prior to the shows. An yes people did travel from a far to see these shows jsut ask Joanne she is one

[Gabi6912]

But really folks:
Does this forum always need circus, and bred?
It is disregretful for me which side you stand on.
Am absolutely sick of this standing war, you are fighting between each other.

[onecrazysquaw]

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[Diego]

I was thinking a few...

And I have to say thank you to the ones who stay to stay positive and bring positivism to the forum, but also to the ones who think different, we cannot think all the same, and when there's no fights, is a good thing to have a little from everyone always with respect to the people from both sides.

Surely things could be much better as I said many times before, and that made angry & sad, I keep on thinking the same and I think it is the same with other people. I wished so much the scorpions were as they used to be, and I wished so much this tour was going to be an amazing one and it is not for me

But after all when you really think this all is finishing, really finishing, the travelling, concerts, etc etc makes you look things from both sides, it could be better and also that..maybe is time to resing ourselves, and to try to enjoy what we have, even if it is far from perfect, even if i do not like how things are with the scorpions now

I do not know if I will be able to see more shows, but I will try to enjoy what I have, the travel to munich, a fos meeting and meeting at mj guitars.

[Funnynunny]

if specific people on this forum still have an issue with the band wather it is true or false about whatever their bitterness posts here on the forum...then freakin leave the forum...this is freakin crap...the forum is for all the fans around the world of the scorpions to come here peacefully and get along respectfully...not to freakin fight or bad mouth each other...so shut the 7th grade attitudes and get a freakin life!...fos daddy is a very good hearted man yes he down grades amend..maybe he has a reason for it...but he never and i repeat never has degraded the band as bad as cristy has...and she wonders why she got dumped on in colorado...but thats besides the point...leave fos daddy alone...he knows what he is talking about...and he is very good friends with scorpions band members...he use to work for them hahaha!...have a nice day!

[YNWA]

diego..

I think his opinion is more than good for CLOSING the topic! It is what it is! Now both Oct/Dec FOS groups should focus on their plans We have 3 more topics for Munich already, so it`s better this bitter one to left locked in the dark history of the forum

[Deleted User 13688]

Diego, I sincerely hope you have a great time seeing Scorps, inspite of how *I* feel, and seeing MJ Guitars. They all will show you a good time for sure.
All was good with Scorpions until recently, when I denounced the band, so nobody dumped on me. Heard from Jabs not too long ago actually, but I don't bother with that anymore. And after what I have posted lately, he certainly ain't gonna bother with me anymore either.
Besides, nobody knows what I know and so therefore can't understand my ranting nor my heartbreak. Why Scorps why? You know how you are, the band WE don't see. Please stop dissing ppl!! Or ALLOWING it anyway!!!

[ScorpfanUkraine]

I have an idea What about asking Matthias to make more presents for the fans who can come only in October. For example he can invite Klaus and Rudy as well to play acoustic set together for the fans. I think they deserved it! Nothing's impossible. Let's try it!

Cristy suggested the same

Sorry but I don't read her posts

[YNWA]

If the above happens, and Matthias invites Klaus & Rudy, I`ll be really mixed up which date to choose Scorps, give us a hint..pleasee

[Deleted User 13688]

If the above happens, and Matthias invites Klaus & Rudy, I`ll be really mixed up which date to choose Scorps, give us a hint..pleasee

Curry, since when has the band EVER done what we asked of them? Sorry, had to add that cuz you know full well that they never answer our cries for help. That's the staunch German maleness in them I guess. Proud and stiff and and whatever! sigh....oh damn, I still love them, they just are so extremely different, I mean EXTREMELY, in their public and private lives that it left me so disillusioned and hurt and I lash out. sorrrryyyy!!

[Deleted User 13688]

I have an idea What about asking Matthias to make more presents for the fans who can come only in October. For example he can invite Klaus and Rudy as well to play acoustic set together for the fans. I think they deserved it! Nothing's impossible. Let's try it!

Cristy suggested the same

Sorry but I don't read her posts

But whyyyy? Maybe you should, at times I say intelligent things. Like the suggestion of MJ Guitars issue that I said before YOU did!! Listen, if you don't like hearing me say truths about the band, that's on you to keep your head in the clouds....but I may be saying sthg that is helpful to the fans, Just cuz it's not what YOU want to hear.
BTW, they still have a part of my heart, I just hate greed and dishonesty, that's all. Is that so wrong?

[YNWA]

If the above happens, and Matthias invites Klaus & Rudy, I`ll be really mixed up which date to choose Scorps, give us a hint..pleasee

Curry, since when has the band EVER done what we asked of them?

Well, the last time, when Ronny asked for a surprise in Brussels we got special attention plus In Trance. So why not.. I still believe in our guys, I do believe that they read our requests and when they (our appeals) are not too impossible to be done and if they depends on what Scorps, as musicians, can do..they simply do it.. Of course, I leave aside the millions of "Change the setlist" topics, cause if every fan is asked what kind of setlist he/she wants, they`ll got around millions of different versions But, who cares abiut the set, pleasseee.. The spirit of the show is what matters! The idea that we see each other, ppl, coming from different places and cultures. Drink and sing together.. That is what matters..

[Deleted User 13688]

If the above happens, and Matthias invites Klaus & Rudy, I`ll be really mixed up which date to choose Scorps, give us a hint..pleasee

Curry, since when has the band EVER done what we asked of them?

Well, the last time, when Ronny asked for a surprise in Brussels we got special attention plus In Trance. So why not.. I still believe in our guys, I do believe that they read our requests and when they (our appeals) are not too impossible to be done and if they depends on what Scorps, as musicians, can do..they simply do it.. Of course, I leave aside the millions of "Change the setlist" topics, cause if every fan is asked what kind of setlist he/she wants, they`ll got around millions of different versions But, who cares abiut the set, pleasseee.. The spirit of the show is what matters! The idea that we see each other, ppl, coming from different places and cultures. Drink and sing together.. That is what matters..

Oh girl please, I am talking about giving us info on changes, on events, etc. on this forum. Whenever we have begged them to please give us answers, have they? Nope! So, that is what I am talking about. You ask them to give a hint? That ain't gonna happen unless Matthias tells Wolfgang to post something. Which it wasn't even posted by Wolfgang that he was going to have sthg at MJG in place of the show. Oh never mind, my head hurts with all of this. I love them still, just that I am no longer blinded by their actions of love. Is that so wrong? Never mind, don't answer that. I am tired of all of it!!!! Just know that it's what they are still doing to ppl that has me so angry, if it was the past that is one thing, but it's now, it's current and it makes me sick. I AM SORRY I SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY WHEN IT COMES TO DISHONESTY!!!! EXCUUUUSE MEEEE!!

[YNWA]

You don`t have to excuse, this is your opinion and I respect it And yes, I don`t think we`ll got some answer but who knows.. Well, it will be pity if they make a mini-show in MJG and I miss it, since I am non-stop talking about FOS private show. And Cristy, after all, august is their month to relax. Forum and official statements are the last thing they are thinking about right now. Let`s give them air to breathe May be september there will be some .."movement"

[Deleted User 13688]

You don`t have to excuse, this is your opinion and I respect it And yes, I don`t think we`ll got some answer but who knows.. Well, it will be pity if they make a mini-show in MJG and I miss it, since I am non-stop talking about FOS private show. And Cristy, after all, august is their month to relax. Forum and official statements are the last thing they are thinking about right now. Let`s give them air to breathe May be september there will be some .."movement"

It would be nice if you knew also, email the hell outta Matthias. He ain't relaxing that much. You have the right to know if Klaus and Rudolf will be there, so you can make plans. Jabs won't mind you emailing him over and over to see if you can be there, he has a weakness for beautiful women!!