Scorpions 2011-2012 US Tour

by **coby123** » January 12th, 2011, 8:42 am

Ok, here's my idea for the Scorps final tour in the States. First off : touring with Van Halen should be a resounding NO ! Eddie is known to be a loose cannon when he goes on tour. Drinking problems, erratic behavior, fights, ect ect. David lee Roth is known to have a mouth and say inappropriate stuff on stage. Not just cussing ( which is fine by me ) but stuff about his own band members past and present , and the other acts ...not to mention the fact that they kinda suck live nowdays. If the Scorps blew em off stage night after night it could cause the Van Halen camp to screw with there lights sound ect. Trust me. They would do it. So forget Halen. Could you imagine the tour being canceled half way through ? The Scorps would get screwed. Don't do it.

I think the Scorps should tie up any loose ends around the world in all of 2011 early 2012 and then do a MASSIVE tour in the US from late may 2012 through early Sept 2012 With a final American show at Madison Square Garden with special guests ( like Herman , Uli , Michael , maybe Ralph, ). Then go on to do final dates in Germany with maybe a final concert in Berlin.

I know some on here don't think they could pull off a big tour alone in the US. I think they could, if they do it right. One thing is naming the tour correctly. They cant say "farewell tour" again but they could call it : *SCORPIONS* NOW OR NEVER , Final US leg of the 2010-2012 Farewell tour. And if they did a US press conference for TV and some for YouTube press explaining that, " we wanted to do our very last year in the states...ect ect " then people would know its credible and that they are not cashing in on multiple farewell tours. Its all about promotion. I know people here complain about promotion of the band but hey, us fans can do it ourselves. Ever heard of Craigslist ? FREE ! FREE ! FREE Promotion ! If the band set 2012 dates in mid 2011 that would give them and fans time to pimp the tour. You can use Craigs List, FaceBook and Myspace with links to the bands official FaceBook and MySpace pages. The Band could do really good TV spot commercials and Youtube advertisements. It can be done !

Also, The band can't neglect their 70's era either. I don't really think they should have Uli or Michael do fill ins during the Tour ( only the grand final at Madison Square Garden ) Herman fill ins ? YES ! ) But they do need to add clips of 70's songs to their promo advertisements and add some 70's songs to the final tour. Maybe speedys coming, Dark Lady, In Trance, Hes a woman Shes a man. I think it would be good to hear Matthias do his interpretation of the solos. He has done it before so....they have to accept that the 70's era is also very important. This will also draw in extra fans.

And again, as far as the Van Halen thing. VH are supposed to release a CD in early 2011. Let them Do it and tour in 2011. The Scorps can concentrate on the rest of the world in 2011 and not have to compete with VH on separate tours in the States . Then the Scorps come to the US in 2012 and KICK ASS ! If VH wants to do a co headline tour in 2013-14 cool. Its cool even if the Scorps are an opening act on it. And then the Scorpions wont loose credibility for doing more touring after their final tour....they can just say Van Halen envited them to do another tour. AND its a win win for us Scorps fans because we might get to have a THIRD US tour !!!! Huh ? Huh ? Like that ?

I have no beef with Van Halen. I love those guys too. But they have fallen from grace. The only reason their last tour sold out is because it was a reunion with Roth. I love Eddie. I grew up mainly on his and Matthias' playing but Van Halen lost it. Dave is cool to, wrote a great book called crazy from the heat, love it. I just don't want to see the Scorps ruin their final US tour because they take a risky tour. The Scorps can do a big final US tour with... PROMOTION ! PROMOTION ! PROMOTION!!! And if they come to Oregon again ( specifically the 12,500 seater Matthew Night Arena in Eugene Oregon...home of the DUCKS : ) I will promote the HELL out of it. I think the rest of us can do the same.

Also, they can get more modern opening acts. One idea is Nickleback. They are huge Scorps fans, so are Smashing Pumpkins. Even though those bands are big in their own right, i bet they would open to pay homage to the Scorps. Shakira , Santana , Avril Lavigne , Sum 41, all bands that have said good things or wore Scorps shirts ect. You would have NO PROBLEM finding younger acts to pay homage to the Scorps on their final US tour. I think my words are true folks. Lets have OUR BAND go out with a thunderous BANG !

by **coby123** » January 12th, 2011, 10:36 am

Not to bump my own post BUT....One way it could go down is if Van Halen also announced this would be their final tour and cd, and then both bands co headline and flip every night. That would sell out in a heartbeat ! Call it the Happy Trails tour like the cover tune on VH's Diver Down. Just a thought.

by **Deleted User 13688** » January 12th, 2011, 4:35 pm

Coby, one word BRILLIANT!! I love how you think. Thank you for this insight and I am very aware of your knowledge of bands and guitars, so I find this very credible.
You sound very much like our Scott. ha!

by **coby123** » January 12th, 2011, 11:21 pm

Thank you Christy ! I think it can be done. Promotion is the key....and doing it right/ tastefully. And also, they may look at getting a US sponsor like Verison or ATT wireless or Itunes ect to offset that tax thing i told you about on FB. I wouldn't mind a sponsor as long as the advertisement wasn't on the stage itself. Maybe the stage floor the PA ect. We need a BIG FINAL TOUR HERE !

by **Deleted User 13688** » January 13th, 2011, 9:47 am

The problem Coby? There are so few on here that are willing to bust their ass to get that done; they know who they are. The rest? Either don't care or are not motivated enuf to do it.

by **coby123** » January 13th, 2011, 10:18 am

I hear ya....I will admit that i had lost my way with the band a few times over the years too BUT people have to realize , this is probably it. No more major tours after this if anything. I even almost missed the last show here because i kinda thought, " they will come back around ". Im glad i went. I hope like heck that they do another full US tour with an opening act. Like i said, if Halen announced that this was their final tour/cd too and fliped for closing every other night....i could hang with that. But i doubt it will happen.

by **coby123** » January 13th, 2011, 10:41 am

Another prob though....If Van Halen dilly dallied on the release of their new stuff , there wasn't a tour from them untill 2012, AND Judast Preist is planning a final tour sometime soon....arghhh ! They would have no chance. People are not going to pay to see three different classic acts in one year. They will pick one. God , 20 years ago we wouldn't even be worrying about all this. How times have changed. Id hate to be a tour promoter for classic acts right now .

by **Scottss8** » January 13th, 2011, 7:52 pm

coby123 wrote:Another prob though....If Van Halen dilly dallied on the release of their new stuff , there wasn't a tour from them untill 2012, AND Judast Preist is planning a final tour sometime soon....arghhh ! They would have no chance. People are not going to pay to see three different classic acts in one year. They will pick one. God , 20 years ago we wouldn't even be worrying about all this. How times have changed. Id hate to be a tour promoter for classic acts right now .

Scorps/Judas Priest 2012 USA Tour...both bands on their farewell tours... both bands are great friends and both bands respect each other...that would be a win win situation...Remember what i said about the Scorps/VH tour it was a rumor and in the early stages..I could see a Scorps/VH mini tour 5-10 dates that would work out no BS between the bands just go out and play. You have to remember Eddie VH respects the hell out of the Scorps and he would never screw with them.

by **coby123** » January 13th, 2011, 10:08 pm

@Scottss : I wasnt clear on what i meant in my post. I meant if VH, Judas Priest, and The Scorpions were all touring separately in 2012. All of the bands would suffer because us old dogs ( im 38 ) usually will go see one, MAYBE two shows a year. People would pic one act to see and thats it. Especially if the low end tickets tickets are $30/50+.

I was also thinking last night : There is no way VH is going to do a big tour on their own either. They blew their "wad" so to speak with reunions with both Hagar and Roth. They aren't going to fill major venues just because they have a new album out. Older casual fans don't follow the band that much anymore and its those fans they need to do a big tour. Same goes with the Scorps. So in reality there is a reason both camps are talking of a joint tour. If the Scorps agree Amend needs to get a tour ryder that keeps Roths mouth on a tight leash and says Eddie has to play every show regardless of his problems...ie: short of an disastrous act of god...the show must go on...Also the bands should flip headlining every night and the Scorps have to be allowed to bill it as their very final US tour.

The other alternative, the one i would choose, is to have the Scorps book shows in 3,000- 7,000 seat venues in weaker US markets and book bigger shows in stronger markets. They would still sell out places like Red Rocks and Madison Square garden because its their final US tour. I would prefer this actually. I know a couple of good places in my state Oregon witch COULD be considered a weak market...we have the Cuthbert Amptheater in Eugene that seats 5k , and the Salem armory in salem that seats about the same . I know theres one in Portland i cant think of right now.

I want to see them do this final on their own...but if they go with VH they HAVE TO FLIP NIGHTS !

by **bloodtoohot** » January 13th, 2011, 11:40 pm

in my opinion i don't want any band as big as the Scorpions... i don't want coheadline tour....
but i would like to see these guy open for Scorpions. they never toured here!. take a look it's worth it... there also a part in the song there is similarity to Klaus voice!

this band is Bonfire from Germany!

Watch on youtube.com

by **Scottss8** » January 14th, 2011, 7:29 pm

bloodtoohot wrote:in my opinion i don't want any band as big as the Scorpions... i don't want coheadline tour....
but i would like to see these guy open for Scorpions. they never toured here!. take a look it's worth it... there also a part in the song there is similarity to Klaus voice!

this band is Bonfire from Germany!
Watch on youtube.com

How about this tour package..They can bill it...

THE GERMANS ARE COMING!!!!
SCORPIONS - HEADLINER - 90 minutes
MSG - SPECIAL GUEST- 60 minutes
ACCEPT - OPENING ACT- 45 minutes
BONFIRE - OPENING ACT- 30 minutes

This package i think would do well in our country..Michael has a good following here in the states and 2010 turned out to be a great comeback year for Accept and Bonfire always puts on a great live show..Maybe a Encore jam fest with all bands at the end of the Scorps set..

by **Scottss8** » January 14th, 2011, 7:34 pm

[quote="coby123"]@Scottss : I wasnt clear on what i meant in my post. I meant if VH, Judas Priest, and The Scorpions were all touring separately in 2012. All of the bands would suffer because us old dogs ( im 38 ) usually will go see one, MAYBE two shows a year. People would pic one act to see and thats it. Especially if the low end tickets tickets are $30/50+.
quote]

I agree 100% on this comment..With the economy so bad here in the states it's hard to see alot of shows at the price of tickets these days.. That is why a Scorps/Priest bill would be a great ending for both bands careers...I know i said the Germans are coming tour Package but how about this one..

SCORPIONS - CO-HEADLINER - 90 MINUTES
JUDAS PRIEST - CO-HEADLINER - 90 MINUTES
MSG - SPECIAL GUEST - 60 MINUTES
ACCEPT - OPENING ACT - 45 MINUTES
BONFIRE - OPENING ACT - 30 MINUTES

This would be a Festival Package and Priest and the Scorps could rotate closing shows just like the 2002 Scorps/Deep Purple tour..now this would be a win win situation..

by **coby123** » January 15th, 2011, 9:46 am

^^^^^^ That is a Killer IDEA ! Seriously ! Michael Schenker would be a little risky but there would be enough bands to cover it if he was a no show. ( no disrespect to him but he does have a history ). I like the all German bands idea as well. Call it the " TEUTONIC THUNDER TOUR" . But yeah, with Priest i think they could sell out !!!! Email Amend with this idea !

by **shugarrckbx** » January 15th, 2011, 4:12 pm

In my opinion,VH is not the band I would want to see tour with the Scorps. There are much better bands out there to join up with. VH has been a very disfunctional band for sometime now and always has been over rated.Matthias could play circles around Eddie and Klaus could out sing who ever VH has singing at the time,considering they have been through how many singers :?:

I would vote no to VH....... :wink:

by **Deleted User 13688** » January 15th, 2011, 5:51 pm

@Coby and Scott.....
Example: When both Lynyrd Skynyrd and Pink Floyd had their 10th year reunion in the same month, me and my boyfriend had to choose one since we couldn't afford both. So being the biker that he was and loving the southern rock. We chose L.S. and I have regreted ever since. Not cuz they put on a bad show, on the contrary it was amazing, but I would have preferred P.F.
All that to say that due to the economy and the prices of tickets, so many are going to have to choose between which band they REALLY want to see if there are all these great classic bands touring at the same time. That could be a major setback. It wouldn't be a problem if we could trust Amend to give a *** about the boys he is supposed to support and if he did some heavy, hell even semi heavy promo here!!! I keep telling MJ that they need to do the talk show circuit and Carson Daly who has a pretty awesome music laden format Damn you Amend. Quit thinking so much of lining your pocket and give a damn about these guys who are on their last tour!!! For being an attorney/manager, you sure act stupid!! sigh....sorry just got little frustrated for a little bit there. haha

by **Retrograde** » January 16th, 2011, 6:30 am

victory*rawks wrote:@Coby and Scott.....
Example: When both Lynyrd Skynyrd and Pink Floyd had their 10th year reunion in the same month, me and my boyfriend had to choose one since we couldn't afford both.

The problem is that shows are so darn expensive now.

Dropping $65-$75 per seat for crap seats and $125 each for good ones bites.

World Wide Live was $12.50 per seat. Has there really been 10x inflation since the 1980's?

by **coby123** » January 16th, 2011, 8:01 am

Inflation has outstriped wages, stage hand unions and the fact that people rip off their music online. Cant say i blame the band if they ask for a little more. It doesn't really bother me though because the only big band i will see is the Scorps so $50-$125 every couple of years aint so bad. I have a " concert fund ". : )

by **shugarrckbx** » January 16th, 2011, 6:37 pm

A concert fund is a true need now a days with the riseing cost of tickets.My first Scorpions concert was 14.95 back in 1984 World Wide Live.My wage has not gone up in relation to the price increase. but who's has :?: