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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Invitado » February 25th, 2012, 3:46 am

Caleb , welcome !! :D

Lennu wrote: to be too quick with your reactions, to maybe risk to hurt somebody's feelings, to let your temperament show.... it's all YOU !! It's part of your personality, too, and if you want people to know you as you are and still like you, it's the only way . Then they have a choice to like you as yourself or not like you (it's their loss )


We have talked about this before....you know me just as I am ....the fact that I`m impulsive doesn`t mean I`m any different at all.... I`m trying to get a hold on me every now and then , because I know , it doesn`t mean anything to me , I may explode and forget about it half an hour later , but not everyone is like me ...some people are more likely to remember you as that one who lose her temper easily, and besides it`s better to remain in silence than to hurt others with our words.
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby katerina » February 25th, 2012, 5:21 pm

Lennu wrote:
I am sincerely sick and tired of the overflowing use of darlings, loves and sweetiepies just in a regular 'hello-how-are-you' conversations... - ok, I know it's a matter of cultural differences, since I come from a society where, if you say "I love you", it really means it, word by word, not only "you're a nice person" :twisted:

(bowing) :clap: :mrgreen:

About internet communication I have to say: everything is relevant.
Of course it's true that voice tone and body language are missing, and that causes some difficulties, but I believe that understanding how something is meant is rather up to the communication abilities of each person (or up to degree of relating/"matching" with someone). How many times doesn't it happen in "real life", that we realize we can't really communicate with someone, that we're being misunderstood, even when we believe we couldn't be more clear? Has happened endless times to me. Receiving a message right depends on so many things, also on the mood of the recipient, on their personal experiences etc etc, even acoustical or optical contact isn't enough.
I believe that being shallow in the online communication comes from being shallow in the "real life" communication, not really from the means/way of communication.
My point is, of course plain mails bring some extra difficulties, but in my opinion the people's character/communication abilities weigh more.
By the way, emails have the advantage that you can read something again and again, or go back to an older conversation and read it with a more clear mind, while this is impossible when in speaking situations.

Damn, with all these "recipient, communication, abilities, person" words it sounds like being at some bs-company-meeting. Brrrrr! :mrgreen:
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Invitado » February 26th, 2012, 2:08 am

Ralph Nichols :


" The most basic of all human needs is the need to understand and be understood. The best way to understand people is to listen to them "
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Gabi6912 » February 26th, 2012, 7:09 am

Hello everyone,

Let me to join to your conversation.
I read the article, it was quite interesting.
My big problem is with it like with almost all the work of sociologists.
It's a dry, artifically created theory for me, just a theory.
It might have a little right, but as I believe: nothing is white-black.
Thus, human mentality, and caracters are much more colourful, and complicated to push them into a simple theory.

I don't want to copy Kate's post here, just one sentence: I couldn't more agree with her. :clap:

I have been communicating with people by the Internet since 2003.
Basicly I belong to two, big online communications, not counting my e-mailpartners from other lines, but:

The main categories are:
the Scorpionsfans,

2. blind people from Hungary, and all over the world.

I can say just one thing:
I have much-much more positive experiences about these online relationships than negative.
First I had just e-mail, or forumconnections with everyone, just by writing, then either phonecals, or Skypecals to get to know each other's voices.
As I could do it, I inmediately sent my Scorpsfanfriends, and other sighted onlinefriends pics about myself, it is obvious that a viewing has an importance for them.

I can say that a pic, or a voice didn't bring a basic change in my relationships.

If I tel you my example with my 3 best hungarian Fosfriends: before meeting them in person first, we had been e-mailing for mounths.
First the Nagy brothers were, who I met in person after e-mailing.
They had a deal to do in my hometown, after finishing it, they came to me, and we spent two, amazing hours in my apartment.
It was the very first occassion of sitting next to each other, hugging each other, hearing eachother's voice, eccept a brief phoneconversation with Nagyi right before the visit if I had arrived home.
And what happened?
We continued everything exactly live like in e-mails before.
The situation was the same with Luky, just our first personal meeting was in Colmar, and we had communicated just once by phone before, but we met as we would have been old friends.

It didn't depend on the same culture/language, because my experience was quite the similar with Adrian, for example.
When I met him at the first time in Colmar after e-mailing, and foruming, I got to know the same, nice, modest caracter, whom I had known online.

In my opinion, if you can pay your attention, and senses strongly to an online person's e-mail/post, you can perceptive the main lines of their caracters.

Believe me, I have been communicating my father live since 42 years, face to face, but we often misunderstand each other very hard, and we can't always clear our misunderstandings up at all. perhaps cause being blind, I don't believe in the power of bodylanguage as much as you do, but do believe in power of words, evenif they are just written.
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Rudolf-THE WISE ONE,
Matthias-THE COOL ONE,
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James-THE CRAZY ONE,
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Sand » February 26th, 2012, 11:13 am

Hello everybody, well, sure that having a "live conversation" with someone gives all the options (intonations, face expressions, and so on) but : mails, msn, etc.. permit to have communication and that what is wonderful. It allows us to keep the contact even if we are far away from each other, we stay close because we can talk and share, and with cams now we have live conversations if we want. So if it didn't exist, I couldn't talk to my nephew who lives in Québec, and my sister can talk to him with skype and see if he is well or not. If it didn't exist, we couldn't share our friendship here in the forum too :P ;)
Moreover, we often ear that humans become "individualist" : you know what, as I see my children talking by sms with their friends, I think positive because they communicate and share :D
So why do they want to compare ways of communication which are different ?
Personaly at the beginning of my msn conversations I had a bad experience with a friend who got angry because he didn't understant that I was joking but perhaps I could just join a laughing smiley to show him I was joking !! As I have more experience today, I know now, that understanding or misunderstanding depends on our nature and for me the better is to appreciate my friends as they are ;)
Rouen, Caen, Le Mans.......München ;) ...When you came into my life...:)
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Inulka » February 26th, 2012, 11:47 pm

Well, I agree with Gabi about that normal ppl (not sick ones) r the same as online chatting/emailing as in real. Of coz there r freaks in the web, but... me, Len, Gabi, Adriana we all know our personalities and we all know that we r real and how we perform.
There's a point that blind ppl like Gabi pay much more attention to the written text and to the voice. I bet Gabi can hear better then we do and she can recognize intonations better. For ppl that can see is normal to imagine the speaker, For us viewing the person helps very much to understand what exactly he/she means, and of coz it's a big lack that by chatting we can't see all those emotions, though emoticons help a bit :banana-rock:

The only thing I can't understand is "virtual sex" :confusion-scratchheadyellow:
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby fos daddy » February 27th, 2012, 1:44 am

Inulka wrote:
The only thing I can't understand is "virtual sex" :confusion-scratchheadyellow:


Thats easy ... Its virtually impossible :teasing-nutkick:
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Gabi6912 » February 27th, 2012, 6:32 am

Oh yep Inna, you're totally right about the differences between you all, and me, I forgot it for a moment.
I just wrote those points, because feel the articcle too categoric, and generalizer, and I don't like generalizing in nothing.


As for virtual sex, I always have thought this kind of "game" quite perverz.
I never could enjoy a "theoretical sex" by words, also, it disgusts me. :shock:
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Rudolf-THE WISE ONE,
Matthias-THE COOL ONE,
Pawe-THE SIMPLE ONE,
James-THE CRAZY ONE,
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Inulka » February 27th, 2012, 11:15 am

fosdaddy wrote:
Inulka wrote: The only thing I can't understand is "virtual sex" :confusion-scratchheadyellow:


Thats easy ... Its virtually impossible :teasing-nutkick:

That what exactly I mean...I may post kiss, hug even *** emoticons but that's NOT REAL kiss, hug or ***. Though I had lots of calls by skype offering virtual sex (then I changed skype settings and no more calls from unknown persons :violence-rocket: ).
Still, Gabi, I don't find anything perverted and disgusting when both enjoy and don't bother others. It's their own business. For example if a gay or lesbian couple doesn't show off and and out of bed act like the rest ppl on earth I don't care if they r gays or lesbians. Or for example most ppl on earth "make love". It's normal...ok, maybe just for asexual ones it's disgusting. But it's normal till it's only between two. If I would see a video of Lenita (just as example) making love with smb and even with her own hubby, it would be disgusting :shock: and who knows how many perverted things they do. :lol:
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Invitado » February 27th, 2012, 2:01 pm

Inulka wrote:and who knows how many perverted things they do.


:lol:

after some years of marriage you almost pray for that !! :lol:

...just kidding of course , but ...it`s true I had found quite difficult to keep the magic after 7 years with the same old someone .....

I`m not saying this happens to everyone ....just what happened to me. Maybe I`m just unlucky.
I really believe that taking care and having it blooming this thing called couple is one of the most difficult tasks ...all others kinds of love are almost guaranteed.
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby DeepAndDark » February 27th, 2012, 3:30 pm

Oh! Godness! You've started from communication in the Net, and now see where you have ended up! :roll: :lol:

I join Gabi. In my opinion all the ways of communication are important and they add up to each other. And not only written speech can be emotionless, I'm sure all of you can remember some boring lecturer who didn't intonate at all. :wink:
And if you're discontented with emails, send a voice mail, or even video mail, if you like. :wink:
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Invitado » February 27th, 2012, 4:12 pm

DeepAndDark wrote:You've started from communication in the Net, and now see where you have ended up!


too much " randomn talk " ? :lol:
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Inulka » February 27th, 2012, 4:17 pm

It would be great if skype created an option of video-mail. There's already a voice mail option, missing only video one :character-spongebobdance:
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Nadin » February 27th, 2012, 4:41 pm

Oh! I missed something interesting here :D Esp the lates subects - thanks for making me laugh again :) :mrgreen: :lol:

Well now what else can I say.. and it seems everything is said already :) - ok, I'll add my 5 cents :) - of course, each type of communication has its pluses and minuses - and, IMO, even live communication can be deceitful - I face this every day - when ppl smile nicely into your face and say sweet words to you, but in fact they think directly the opposite of what they say :( - so yep, it all depends on each personality, and his\her honesty towards you...I mean if you sayhonestly what you think about one\another subject or person in reality, you'll likely act the same in a virtual communiation too...
As for me, I also see only positive sides in internet communitating - well, first of all, if it didn't exist, I would never meet and make friends with all of you :) . Then, as Sand mentioned,communicating through skype, ICQ, social nets and other devices is much more cheaper than phone calls - so now you can easilly communicate with ppl who live far away from you ( btw, this forum is also a confiration to it - I can't even imagine, what amounts there would be in my phone bills if I called, for ex, Adriana every day :roll: )
The main thing IMO - to have everything measured :)
Best wishes, Nadya

It's great to be here, to see you all!

...'Coz you're engraved deep in my heart....:romance-heartbeating:
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Guest » February 27th, 2012, 10:35 pm

HOLY CRAP !!! I am away for half a day and what do I see ??? I bet half of the forum members are desperately trying to imagine me in action :drool: :drool: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Thanks a lot, Innuska !!! :whistle:
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Invitado » February 27th, 2012, 10:37 pm

:o :lol: :lol:
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Inulka » February 27th, 2012, 10:44 pm

Lennu wrote: HOLY CRAP !!! I am away for half a day and what do I see ??? I bet half of the forum members and desperately trying to imagine me in action :drool: :drool: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Thanks a lot, Innuska !!! :whistle:

URW, Len 8) If u want, I can edit my post and put Adriana's name instead of yours :angelic-green: :whistle:
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Invitado » February 27th, 2012, 10:48 pm

Oh !! that would be an absolutelly freacking XXX movie :lol: :dance:
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Guest » February 27th, 2012, 10:51 pm

Inulka wrote:
Lennu wrote: HOLY CRAP !!! I am away for half a day and what do I see ??? I bet half of the forum members and desperately trying to imagine me in action :drool: :drool: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Thanks a lot, Innuska !!! :whistle:

URW, Len 8) If u want, I can edit my post and put Adriana's name instead of yours :angelic-green: :whistle:


You think that would make ppl forget about me??? Heeeheeeheee... you got the ball rolling now, signora :mrgreen: / oh, after Adriana's comment : we could always try to make it one, Adriana !! :lol: :lol: (Please somebody stop me! I'm getting myself banned from the forum! :twisted:
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Re: Hello ,

Unread postby Inulka » February 27th, 2012, 10:52 pm

U both r so mean! :text-worthless:
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