Olympiahalle-Munich closed until 19th of October

[Scorplady]

If December 17th is really the new date - I am so very sorry my friends who have already spent money to go in October. I know that it is not the Scorpions fault - but since the plan was to have a great big fan meeting and has been that way for many months - and the Scorpions (and management) must know this. Maybe they can find a way to help them? Assist with the cost of the flight changes, etc. (Really it's the Olympiahalle that should do that...) I know if I had already purchased my tickets I would be asking that.

I think all successful musical bands forget something - they have the money, they are able to change plans or stay in very expensive hotels whenever they want to. Their dedicated fans do not always have that luxury (myself included). It would be nice if they were able to help their fans in a situation like this. Especially with this being the FINAL tour dates for the year and possibly - just maybe the end?

I would like to trust the Scorpions to do the right thing about this, but I know how difficult it would be.

[Leb Yellow Butterfly]

I cannot describe my feelings, I cannot believe someone just took the decision to destroy the dreams of hundreds and thousands of fans...

the time I have wasted looking for a ticket, the effort I had to make to transfer the money and have the ticket shipped to Germany then sent to Lebanon (as the seller couldnt ship to outside Germany)...all the difficulties I had to go thru, and believe me, I faced a lot of obstacles when getting this ticket, i didnt care, of course, because each time I went thru something, I only had to picture all of us, FOSers drinking beer in a cozy place, partying, rocking and laughing, and then gathering in one show,this was making everything easy for me...then came the visa stress, preparing all papers, documents, files, going to the embassy, waiting for 15 days, to know that I was granted a visa...praying, praying and dreaming of Muenchen, day and night, booking the flight tickets...sharing this with my friends, with you, all of you...I get the visa on a thursday noon and I come to check the forum at night to read the worst news ive heard in years....and now the official ones...yes, someone decided to ruin it all, as simple as this...someone did not make any effort to take into consideration our feelings, our dedication, devotion...this is how we are rewarded....I had one dream, to see the Scorpions again, and outside Lebanon, I wanted to go all the way to Europe, I wanted to have Klaus holding the lebanese flag in the Olympiahalle side to side with the bulgarian, italian, ukranian, russian, hungarian, spanish, swiss, british, german, polish, romanian and many other flags...but someone decided to make it impossible for me and to disregard all of the above....who cares? no one, apparently...

friends, I am sorry for all of you who had plans for Munich, my story is one of many many others...I am mostly sorry because my dream to meet you all is gone..thanks for all sympathizing with me, and with all of us...

Scorps, this is not your fault guys, but the management that you have sucks and wants to give a bad image for you in front of the people who care the most for you, your second family, the family of the Spiders...I really wanted to see you again, more than anything else, and it will take me some time now to listen to your songs again, I dont feel like listening to your songs now, or tomoro, or next week...this will always remind me about Munich...the pain is bitter...so bitter...

[Nickg160 - Scotland]

First of All - Scorplady, Lovely thoughts you have there, but i am afraid you dont know the scorpions well enough if you think they might actually do something for us, well as long as the current management is involved anyway because that would cost them money!. Yet again the only people that will lose out will be us the real fans who spend thousands of euros every year following them... and for what?? To get ripped off time and again!!!!!!!!!

Time and time again we are let down and this situation has just confirmed they really have very little interest in us anymore. First of all Nancy and now we have a situation with Munich that is simply embarrassing, disgusting and totally unbelievable!! Not even a single statement from the band or management it is just becoming a really sad joke they are so out of touch with us now it is really quite ridiculous. They know damn well how many of us are planning to travel so they have been scared to admit this concert would not happen! Typical.

I hear see some people being goody goody here and trying to be nice saying things like Positive energy!!! Come on you guys get real !!!! How we can be positive moving from each disaster to another. There is no way we can remain positive any more and some of you need to grow a back bone and realise how sad the whole thing is starting to become.

I have now went from a dedicated fan travelling with my Girlfriend all over the world to see the band spending thousands to know being sick of the idea of planning another trip. Why should i want to see them somewhere else for the thirtieth time in 3 years playing the same set list as usual thats if they can even ensure that the concert will go ahead.

Munich is the one concert that they should really have pulled out all the stops to find another venue for in the city no excuses and despite whatever it costs. Even Nickleback have provided a change of venue for fans probably because they actually respect and care about their proper fans. What do we get? a new date in December On a Monday that will cost us all even more money to get to at that time of year!! You should all boycott this concert and show them that this is simply unacceptable. I know i will be i am simply not interested in attending this rescheduled concert anymore.I could be saving my money to pursue other dreams in my life or using it for something useful other than simply lining the pockets of management again who are enjoying the last chance of ripping every penny they can out of us all one last time.Thats if this tour ever ends!!!!!

Positive energy..... Give me a break..... Our Patience can only be tested for so long

Many of you guys need to wake up and realise that the dreams we all have of seeing them do something special for us or even anything caring for us is just simply never going to happen by the looks of it.

I hope to god for all of our sakes the Band proves me wrong.........

[oldscorpsfan75]

Oh my dear Nada! How many sadness can see through your words I'm very very sad for you...your wished this trip for so long time (me too)and now everything is going down like a castle build on the sand...I'm totally agree: see a concert out of his own motherland is something very very emotional....meet people from all over the world is fantastic...united under one flag called ROCK...then I can understand all the problems you had knowing from where you come from...personally I really liked meet you and sing at top of our voices: "SCORPIONS SCORPIONS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kristof]

It a really pity situation,...even when we didn't got tickets and maybe still tried to find a way to get there,...but now since it will be on a Monday ,we sure aren't going,...seems a lot of poeple are not going to the new date,...just thinking on the people who bought a ticket on e-bay,if they deceide not going to the new date,they can 't get refund of the tickets,...
Maybe for everyone who can't chance the travel plans,still go in October and have a FOS party at MJ guitars,...

[fos daddy]

My deepest sympathy to all of you that ..
Spent hard earned money for a ticket ..
Spent hard earned money on a airplane ticket
Spent hard earned money on hotels
Spent long hours on the phone making plans
Spent long hours making arrangements to meet other fans
and after all this bs
The friendship among strangers has become deeper because you all have something in common now
You all now know how the fans in Nancy feel .

[Deleted User 13688]

First of All - Scorplady, Lovely thoughts you have there, but i am afraid you dont know the scorpions well enough if you think they might actually do something for us, well as long as the current management is involved anyway because that would cost them money!. Yet again the only people that will lose out will be us the real fans who spend thousands of euros every year following them... and for what?? To get ripped off time and again!!!!!!!!!

Time and time again we are let down and this situation has just confirmed they really have very little interest in us anymore. First of all Nancy and now we have a situation with Munich that is simply embarrassing, disgusting and totally unbelievable!! Not even a single statement from the band or management it is just becoming a really sad joke they are so out of touch with us now it is really quite ridiculous. They know damn well how many of us are planning to travel so they have been scared to admit this concert would not happen! Typical.

I hear see some people being goody goody here and trying to be nice saying things like Positive energy!!! Come on you guys get real !!!! How we can be positive moving from each disaster to another. There is no way we can remain positive any more and some of you need to grow a back bone and realise how sad the whole thing is starting to become.

I have now went from a dedicated fan travelling with my Girlfriend all over the world to see the band spending thousands to know being sick of the idea of planning another trip. Why should i want to see them somewhere else for the thirtieth time in 3 years playing the same set list as usual thats if they can even ensure that the concert will go ahead.

Munich is the one concert that they should really have pulled out all the stops to find another venue for in the city no excuses and despite whatever it costs. Even Nickleback have provided a change of venue for fans probably because they actually respect and care about their proper fans. What do we get? a new date in December On a Monday that will cost us all even more money to get to at that time of year!! You should all boycott this concert and show them that this is simply unacceptable. I know i will be i am simply not interested in attending this rescheduled concert anymore.I could be saving my money to pursue other dreams in my life or using it for something useful other than simply lining the pockets of management again who are enjoying the last chance of ripping every penny they can out of us all one last time.Thats if this tour ever ends!!!!!

Positive energy..... Give me a break..... Our Patience can only be tested for so long

Many of you guys need to wake up and realise that the dreams we all have of seeing them do something special for us or even anything caring for us is just simply never going to happen by the looks of it.

I hope to god for all of our sakes the Band proves me wrong.........

Well AMEN!! Finally someone who gets it!! He is right Joanne, I am sorry girl but I laughed out loud when I read that you would hope that the fans will be compensated!! Girl, I know you wish to believe in them, but plainly stated, Amend is a greedy b*****d and would not give you a dime! And the guys are allowing it. I sure don't know what sort of grip Amend has on them, but single handedly he has ruined the greatest band in rock here in the States and he has now ruined many fans' dreams KNOWING full well the cost involved. My gosh, these fans work long hours just to get a ticket, not to mention airfare and hotel and travel etc etc! You know why I blame the guys as well as Amend? Cuz like I said, they are allowing this control! What does Amend have over their heads that he is their dictator? Well, considering some of the things that Amend is doing that you all don't know, the Scorps should be ashamed of themselves for far more than screwing the fans out of Munich in October!!! My gosh, nobody is going to be able to afford anything around Christmas; hotel, airfare, etc. This is a joke.... but the sad thing is, they don't care. You know why? Cuz between Russia and France, they are making millions!! So why do they need to worry about the rest of the world.
Part of me believes they care a little bit, but not enough to make it worth our while. I am so dead inside right now.

[Guest]

Business is business is business...

Too many sad stories here, stories of disappointment and frustration...

The songs remain, the old ones and the newer ones. They will have to do from now on.

I thank you for you company, Fosers, nice people that you are. Kisses and keep rocking

[Deleted User 13688]

It a really pity situation,...even when we didn't got tickets and maybe still tried to find a way to get there,...but now since it will be on a Monday ,we sure aren't going,...seems a lot of poeple are not going to the new date,...just thinking on the people who bought a ticket on e-bay,if they deceide not going to the new date,they can 't get refund of the tickets,...
Maybe for everyone who can't chance the travel plans,still go in October and have a FOS party at MJ guitars,...

Why? Besides, Matthias said that he will have to change his plans for an M&G is they don't do the October date. So since that date is no longer, why would Matthias be there for a party?

[Lil-Nicci]

As the other half of the Scottish duo who've followed the Scorpions all over the world, I thought I'd best wade in with my disamusement...

I kept quiet after the shambles of Nancy, but the Munich farse is the final straw!
I don't have enough fingers and toes on which to count how many times we've seen them in the last three years - but that number shan't increase again.

Before I go any further, I should point out that we saw them in four different countires in the space of five months last year, we've spent many hours queing, several days driving, lots of time on flights across Europe, thousands upon thousands of £ seeing them. We have met them all on numerous occassions, we have a whole wall in our house dedicated to the amazing times we've had seeing them and meeting with them. Every Scorpion has been a true gentleman in person, and has been very accomodating to having photos taken and signing things for us. We do love them, and always will, and we will always cherish their fantastic music which has touched us forever. But, their greedy, money-grabbing management have forced us to decide against ever going abroad again to see them.

We spent over £2000, took 6 days off work, and drove for 5 days for 2 gigs (Antwerp and Nancy) in May. And for what? Antwerp was good, but Nancy a bitter disappointment and a real waste of time, money and effort. And now we have flights, hotels and concert tickets for Munich (all bought several months ago) for a concert that won't even be happening. If the gigs were in our home country, we could cancel the hotel and get our money back for the tickets. But as we've paid to travel thousands of miles abroad, we have to go.

Regarding Nancy -their message about 'not knowing the promoters were advertising Ui Jon Roth and Michael Schenker would be playing with them' was utter nonsense. Aside from the fact that five grown men would not be so naive, it is insulting they think the fans would believe such rubbish. In fact, Nancy was such a disappointment taht had we not have already paid for Munich, Nancy would have been the last time we ever saw them outwith the UK.

Regarding Munich, if they actually gave a damn about their fans, or if their managment realised that it's the fans who pay their wages, they'd reschedule the gig for a date relatively close to that originally scheduled. To effectively pull a date from nowhere shows poor organisation, and a lack of respect for their fans.

If they come to the UK, we'll maybe go - but we will not waste our time or money travelling abroad - their management are too volatile. That means there is a very real chance we will never, ever see them again. We like to see the world 'one gig at a time' - however, we will only spend our money on bands we feel appreciate their fans.

We'll always love the Scorpions and their music, but it's very hard to respect a band who clearly don't respect their fans enough to be honest or considerate.

[brunnhilde]

I don't yet know what I will do, but a Monday night, the week before Xmas is not looking good

Dearest Scorps - I accept that you can't or won't come to my country on your farewell tour. I know it's cause you just don't have the fanbase here in the UK anymore, & so that's fine - I'll come to you....I love to travel.

Brussels
Frankfurt

but we all had our hearts set on München for a FOS finale...

I always try to be positive. This sucks

[brunnhilde]

and a big thank you to all of you wonderful FOSers for finding stuff out, sharing, & generally trying to keep each other positive. I don't get on the forum as much as I used to, but you guys still rock Thank u all

[Scorplady]

You guys don't have to agree with me. I'm sitting here in pain from getting bruised ribs from an Iron Maiden concert this weekend. And even after all of this, I'm still planning to head far away to see the Scorpions.

I agree 100% that they should of told us SOMETHING or ANYTHING official directly. Even if they are looking at resolving the problem - a Facebook post, a news post, a twitter post - just anything. But they didn't and they rarely do. To leave everything hanging is a bad idea and lots of people are getting more and more angry, sad or both. And I don't blame them one bit - as I'm one of them. And if I had already purchased my flights for Munich, there is no doubt I would feel exactly the same way.

But I'm not going to sit here and start complaining about their set lists or the terrible thing that happened with Nancy. Don't you guys understand? I want this to work out and I was hoping that they would find a way to make it happen. Now that it looks like it might not happen, I want to hope that something good could happen from all of this instead of a generic "Oh we apologize to our fans, blah blah" when it's something so close to the last concert and a huge FOS gathering, we deserve more.

Until they tell us what the hell is going on officially, I will continue to have positive thoughts and dream that things can still work out. You guys won't stop me.

I'm just sick of negativity in general, everyone is so damn quick to complain about the band, the management or whatever else is a problem. I am focusing on the positive thing that the Scorpions are still playing and I still have the opportunity to see them.

But if they do move it to December I will be sad because so many I was hoping to meet in Munich will no longer be there.

You can all call me a dreamer, or even an optimist (or at least I try to be) but I prefer to live in that kind of world than the one that is always complaining. I want my glass half full - preferably with beer.

[Invitado]

I`m so sorry to see your dreams shattered in pieces , but if you ask me for my intuition, I`m sure the band is aware and will try to make it up for you .

You can all call me a dreamer, or even an optimist (or at least I try to be) but I prefer to live in that kind of world than the one that is always complaining. I want my glass half full - preferably with beer.

I agree on this , I mean , had I my ticket and would I had arranged my visit I `d probably be feeling the same way you do , but come on ! every time I check on a band`s site tour dates I use to think how can they make this ? so many places ,so far from each other in so little time ...there are many things that can happen in between ....just like this happened and ther`s no one to blame but destiny .

I`m really looking forward for some suitable solution to come up for you guys.

[Deleted User 13688]

UHHHH SCORPS, GET A CLUE!! You may not care anymore cuz you are supposedly retiring, but holy s**t, what a way to go out, not on top but on the bottom!??!

Joanne and Adriana, are you two even aware of how many times this band has screwed with the fans? Obviously not! This is naiviety to the total extreme!!! Read those posts of the old time fans who this has happened to or has witnessed things like this happening to others time and time again. They are sicjk of it!! Good grief, it's fans like you guys that keeps them putting up the facade! You allow it! sigh....sorry, this is just proof that no matter what they do or how many times they pull these stunts, they are always going to have those who say, WHAT? THE SCORPS? NO WAY!!! It's tragic! Quit living in Scorpions LaLa Land, please! And no if they were going to make it right, they would have done so already.

[Invitado]

This is naiviety to the total extreme!!!

Guilty !!

Okay Cristy , but in fact I have never lost in sight that this is all about business , and when there is a label, money and lawyers involved , ..well ..it`s just not about fans and their relationship with their favourite musicians , or,... the other way round ,it`s not even up to them either but the well oiled machine that do have to exist to support the business.

So, I`m not that naive after all .......

[Gabi6912]

Okay, let me join to the naivity/optimist club.
I agree with Joanne in 1000%.
I feel much better being positive than sitting, licking my wounds, and complaining.

Hey Nadia, I talked to Luky yesterday, hungarian Fos probably will be there in December as well, so try to do your very best to be with us, pleaseeeee!

[Deleted User 13688]

Okay, let me join to the naivity/optimist club

[Deleted User 13688]

This is naiviety to the total extreme!!!

Guilty !!

Okay Cristy , but in fact I have never lost in sight that this is all about business , and when there is a label, money and lawyers involved , ..well ..it`s just not about fans and their relationship with their favourite musicians , or,... the other way round ,it`s not even up to them either but the well oiled machine that do have to exist to support the business.

So, I`m not that naive after all .......

Adriana, ya know I luv ya girl, right? I just don't want you to continue giving these guys a free pass when they screw up or treat us like we are none essentials in their "business"!! Do I sound like I am on a tirade? Well I guess in a way I am.....these guys need to stop how they treat folks like caca and get a clue that this is unacceptable behavior. WE are their paycheck man!!! We don't deserve this sort of treatment AND we have been fooled as to how this band truly is behind closed doors. There will come a day when the truth will be found out. And if I am kicked off here cuz of the things I say....then so be it. I am telling it like it is after being a fan since 1984 and a so called friend since 2007! So believe me, finding out the things I have, has not been pleasant, but I know that more and more, they are showing their true colors and only those who are sick of being fooled will have open eyes.

[Ashlie]

If it wasn't for the fact that the Christmas market is on in December and, at the moment, the hotel prices are around the same as October, I doubt we would be going. I always like seeing the band, but now it's just a case of I love seeing live music and not so much, wow I'm seeing the Scorpions again. This is a real shame because they were my favourite band for such a long time, but I'm moving on and luckily have lots of other bands to see before this year is out and isn't costing me an arm and a leg to see them. If the trip to Munich does go ahead , I'll just have to make sure I am in some sort of Gluwein delirium for the whole of the time (which in my case wouldn't be hard!)