Second leg of USA tour ?

[sa5150]

I think scott posted there was probably no chance . I was looking at the dates and after DC or after the wacken fest there is plenty of open space, But i guess we have to see how the tour is selling . prices are pretty high so I don't know .... any chance maybe for the Minnesota,Illinois and Indiana State fairs ?

[Guest]

Don't forget that after Wacken they are playing in Poland. The cost of shipping all their gear back over here for a couple of shows then back to Europe then back over here for SA tour is not worth it.

[oldscorpsfan75]

And on 20th july a new killing tour will begin: Kiss+Motley Crue,it will last until 23rd september,for a total of 40 dates across all USA,surely as you said the cost of shipping all backstage is huge then if it is only for few dates ,I think US fans should deserve better

[Scorplady]

Well, since Wacken is a festival do they need to bring their whole set up there? It's possible they might end up leaving their stage show here in North America, return after Wacken do a few more final shows and head to Poland?

Otherwise it's starting to look like the DC show is going to be the final one on this continent.

[laohui]

dont forget they're playing in Mexico this September

[Scorplady]

dont forget they're playing in Mexico this September

Now that's a good point - maybe my guess is right then!

[Guest]

They could do that only if it's not required for Poland.

[fonzbear2000]

The Kiss/Crue tour is coming to the MN. State fair and they only book one hard rock/metal act every year, but we have 2 major arenas here so anything is possible!

[Scottss8]

I think scott posted there was probably no chance . I was looking at the dates and after DC or after the wacken fest there is plenty of open space, But i guess we have to see how the tour is selling . prices are pretty high so I don't know .... any chance maybe for the Minnesota,Illinois and Indiana State fairs ?

Its looking very doubtful for any dates being added in August in NA. So if there are anymore it will be after the DC show. But i will tell you one thing and alot of people are going to be mad at me. But tickets are not selling well right now across North America. I check ticket sales daily. This was my biggest fear. In North america we get so many touring packages during the summer and with the economy being so bad most fans have to pick and choose on what shows to see. In a 21 day period in the Washington-Maryland-Virginia area we are getting:

June 30- Iron Maiden/Alice Cooper- jiffy Lube Live
July 10- Def Leppard/Poison/Lita Ford- merriweather post pavilion
July 12 - Scorpions- merriweather post pavilion
July 20- KISS-Motley Crue- jiffy Lube Live

So alot of fans have to choose between these shows. And the KISS-Crue tour will be the tour of the summer which now will hurt ticket sales even more for the Scorps. That is why i wanted them to tour here in the Spring. So they had no one except the Van Halen tour to compete with which with a good touring package would of been okay.

[Scorplady]

Yeah but they haven't announced the "last concert in North America" so I'm still hopeful that they will still add a few dates - certainly not many but if there was ever a chance to sell tickets it would be at the last show on this continent.

[WilhelmSc]

The management of Scorpions is too arrogant and selfish. Mr Amend acts like Scorpions is the biggest act of the world right now and they dont need a co-headliner in the States, country where no one barely knows them anymore.

If they could set up a tour with Van Halen as co-headliner, they would play in sold-out arenas and people would recall them. But its too late!

Im not surprised why the tickets are selling soo bad.

[Scottss8]

The management of Scorpions is too arrogant and selfish. Mr Amend acts like Scorpions is the biggest act of the world right now and they dont need a co-headliner in the States, country where no one barely knows them anymore.

If they could set up a tour with Van Halen as co-headliner, they would play in sold-out arenas and people would recall them. But its too late!

Im not surprised why the tickets are selling soo bad.

Van Halen and Scorpions probably would not of worked since VH doesnt need a opening act to sell out arenas here in america. But a Scorpions/Def Leppard tour would of been huge here and both bands would of played in front of 20,000 a night. I agree on the Amend comment about him thinking the band is still big in America. Amend still thinks its 1984 the year of the Scorpions..

[Scorplady]

Well I'm going to disagree with the both of you - for their final tour I don't want them co-headlining with anyone. It's about the Scorpions, not Def Leppard or Van Halen. Seats might be selling poorly, but the economy sucks - they are offering these crazy expensive VIP packages and there are many tours for people to choose from at the same time.

The fact that the assumption management is making that the Scorpions are in the forefront as a megaband here in North America is wrong and we'll miss out because of it.

[Scorpions Truck]

The question is: who is forgotten, The Scoprions of Van Halen?

Haven´t heard nothing from VH since ages....... but may be I am not realy involved in what happens in this biz.......

[Guest]

I have talk to friends about the Scorpions and the first thing out of their months is are they still kicking around (ie that is a management problem)

As for the economy being crappy that is only down in the USA , up in Canada it's is doing alot better than one thinks, like where can a person with only a grade 10 schooling make 100k plus.

[WilhelmSc]

@Ben: After so many years of NOTHING, Van Halen manages to sell out the arenas in USA. So the answer is: Scorpions are forgotten in the States. Thanks to who??

[Thomas]

Don't forget that after Wacken they are playing in Poland. The cost of shipping all their gear back over here for a couple of shows then back to Europe then back over here for SA tour is not worth it.

Per Ben .. One stage set will stay here the states and be used in mexico and south america
While the other stays in europe for Wacken and other shows there

[Scottss8]

The question is: who is forgotten, The Scoprions of Van Halen?

Haven´t heard nothing from VH since ages....... but may be I am not realy involved in what happens in this biz.......

the reason you have not heard of VH in ages is because the band does nt care to play in germany. Van Halen's 2012 tour is selling out all over North america and their new single is on every radio station.

so lets check this out David Lee Roth and Van Halen huge in 1984 and now in 2012!!!

Scorpions classic lineup huge in 1984 but current lineup can barely sell 1,000 tickets at each venue in 2012 in North america. Not hard to figure why the band is not big here in America. Every radio station here in america plays the same 4 songs..rock you Like a hurricane- No One Like you-Still Loving you-wind of change all the classic lineup..so when fans see a concert advertisement for the Scorpions the first thing out of the casual fans mouth are who are those two guys (james and pawel)..and 99% of those fans will not buy a ticket for a band they can not relate too.. its just the facts..

Well I'm going to disagree with the both of you - for their final tour I don't want them co-headlining with anyone. It's about the Scorpions, not Def Leppard or Van Halen. Seats might be selling poorly, but the economy sucks - they are offering these crazy expensive VIP packages and there are many tours for people to choose from at the same time.

The fact that the assumption management is making that the Scorpions are in the forefront as a megaband here in North America is wrong and we'll miss out because of it.

i understanding what you are saying about this being a tour about the Scorpions and that is why i suggested that the band get multi- opening acts but still make it about the Scorpions..in a festival setting..3 or 4 opening acts and start the shows at 6pm..all opening acts play 30-40 minutes and have the Scorpions play 100 minutes..now that tour would of worked well atleast better then having one opening act. The last Scorpions tour with only one opening act that was successful here in america was the Love at first sting 1984 tour..1988 it was the monsters of rock with 5 bands and then when they went out after that with Kingdome come they had to cancel some shows and there were very few sell outs. 1991 the band had great white and Trixter and that tour was a sell out.

1994- Kings X on the west coast was moderate success
the Poor on the east coast was a bomb

1996- Alice Cooper most shows were not successful- grunge period not a good touring time
1999- with Motley Crue a huge success..why because it was a killer bill!! period...
2002- with Deep Purple and Dio huge success..killer bill..period

every tour since then has been very unsuccessful here..bad touring packages..

[Scorplady]

Yeah having 3 or 4 opening groups would of worked. Even if they were the old hair metal bands.

The point I was trying to make was about Van Halen or Def Leppard types. It would bring in the crowds but take away from the Scorpions as the crowd would be very mixed or even worse - more there for the other co-headliner.

I think you keep on harping on the fact that low attendance numbers = bad touring packages. Poor media coverage = bad touring packages.

Right now if management would spend money on advertising and the whole "LAST TIME IN XXXX CITY" people would have more interest. But they are being saturated by Van Halen and now the whole Kiss/Motley Crue tour of "Yes, give us all your money that's why we do this."

Van Halen VIP package for front row and no meet & greet was $895

Kiss VIP package with meeting the band and getting autographs is $1250 for ONE ticket

Motley Crue VIP package with meeting the band is $1399 for ONE ticket

Get some billboards, some radio interviews push the fact that these are the last North American dates and people will go - but what will they choose the shows they hear about ALL the time, or that one Scorpions show they heard about in that short upcoming events thing. We know about these shows because we are the diehard fans and will bend over backwards to find out where they are performing, the general concert goer who "has heard of" or "likes the band" needs to have it as a "MUST GO" event.

Are they really only selling 1,000 seats in some venues? Considering how fast tickets have been going that pretty much surprises me. Maybe North America is becoming more like Europe, they wait until the show is closer before buying their tickets.

[Aleyah]

I don't understand why they don't play in Minnesota. We have two major cities, Minneapolis AND St. Paul. Even Kiss and Crue are playing the State Fair. Scorps could surely play there or one of the smaller clubs that hold a few thousand. Megadeth did that and Manson will be doing that in a few weeks. I hope they do add a few more shows. I know they can't play everywhere but I would LOVE to see them! I am broke with buying tickets to a couple concerts coming here but I would gladly work overtime for the chance to see them if they come to the area!!!!!!!