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Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with James



Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with James

Unread postby Lovechaser1579 » March 13th, 2012, 11:28 pm

Here´s the proof that Herman could for real keep up with James

I know it´s a different style ... but Herman -in his prime- could play as fast and tough as James !!! :clap:

I like both of them equally, knowing that there´s only one real Scorpion :mrgreen: and that´s of course H.R.

This is from good old 1988 (Savage Amusement Tour)

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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby Invitado » March 14th, 2012, 12:32 am

Wow !! nice :P I know some friends .... whose thoughts are the same as yours :wink:

Thanks for sharing the link .
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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby Deleted User 13688 » March 14th, 2012, 12:42 am

You need to read his book!
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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby Thomas » March 14th, 2012, 3:44 am

I have this show .. :character-beavisbutthead:
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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby coby123 » March 16th, 2012, 2:56 pm

I dont think its about speed or drum solos at all. Herman is better when it comes to playing for the song. I put him in there with Charlie Watts and Phil Rudd any day . When he plays it just locks. I always talked him up back when i was in bands and people back then didn't get it. It was all about speed and technicality.

Now days people realize music is about MUSIC not technical skill. James is an AWESOME drummer and helped draw in an keep younger fans. ..But Herman is the man. A real pro with feel. You could almost see Klaus thinking ' Damn , i miss this ' when Herman sat in at the Oklahoma show. And that snare sound- he hits it like he means it !

BUT , James rocks , is enthusiastic and has kept the Scorps going . Win win.
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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby Gość » March 16th, 2012, 4:59 pm

Lovechaser1579 wrote:I like both of them equally, knowing that there´s only one real Scorpion :mrgreen: and that´s of course H.R.

In my opinion J. Kottak is a real Scorpion, too :wink:
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Unread postby Deleted User 13688 » March 16th, 2012, 6:59 pm

I know hun. Had a strange misunderstanding that finally got cleared up I guess. :wink:
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Unread postby fantasy » March 16th, 2012, 10:59 pm

so a next 2 cd with herman and francis and pawel and uli + mickael ah ahahhaahahhah
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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby WilhelmSc » March 17th, 2012, 11:13 am

Herman was PERFECT for the 70s and 80s. But James is better for these days. I was listening to No One Like You in Wacken played by Herman and it sounded too dry for me. James does much better job on this song for 2012 than Herman. James' sound is more full.

But thats my own opinion :p
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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby Deleted User 2174 » March 17th, 2012, 5:22 pm

WilhelmSc wrote:Herman was PERFECT for the 70s and 80s. But James is better for these days. I was listening to No One Like You in Wacken played by Herman and it sounded too dry for me. James does much better job on this song for 2012 than Herman. James' sound is more full.

But thats my own opinion :p


Amen! You definetly arent alone with that opinion! :) ..with all the respect to Herman of cource!
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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby Raised On Rock » March 19th, 2012, 1:25 am

WilhelmSc wrote:
Herman was PERFECT for the 70s and 80s. But James is better for these days. I was listening to No One Like You in Wacken played by Herman and it sounded too dry for me. James does much better job on this song for 2012 than Herman. James' sound is more full.

But thats my own opinion :p



Amen! You definetly arent alone with that opinion! ..with all the respect to Herman of cource!


I'm also with you, boys!

I would also give credit to the early drummers, Jurgen Rosenthal for example was a really great drummer in my opinion!
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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby Gość » March 19th, 2012, 9:24 pm

victory*rawks wrote:I know hun. Had a strange misunderstanding that finally got cleared up I guess. :wink:

Good, I missed your posts :D

WilhelmSc wrote:Herman was PERFECT for the 70s and 80s. But James is better for these days. I was listening to No One Like You in Wacken played by Herman and it sounded too dry for me. James does much better job on this song for 2012 than Herman. James' sound is more full.

AMEN! :shock:
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Unread postby Deleted User 13688 » March 19th, 2012, 11:24 pm

I missed my friends on here, but really I didn't miss the bad stuff on here. ;-P You know what I mean!! lol
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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby coby123 » March 20th, 2012, 1:18 am

I must add that James did a stellar job on the Moment of glory LIVE performance and Acoustica live as well.
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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby Shane » March 20th, 2012, 1:31 am

Hi everyone:

First question I'd pose to anyone . . . . why does everything have to become a competition? Obviously, Herman Rarebell was a huge part of the Scorpions for many, many years. He was awesome!

But James Kottak is a nice guy, has reached out to hundreds, if not thousands of fans - having offered his personal e-mail account in the past, brings a tremendous amount of energy (and talent!) to the band, has ALSO helped write songs and music for the band, and is an incredible positive force. I feel that in posing these comparisons, it unfairly takes something away from the other person.

It's really not fair to either drummer - and I feel it will help those "dyed in the wool" Herman Rarebell fans to watch Acoustica, listen to some of the Scorps' recent work . . . James has definitely earned respect as being a part of the band.

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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby SeaFoodSting » March 20th, 2012, 3:45 am

Well stated Shane!
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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby Deleted User 13688 » March 20th, 2012, 4:59 am

It's just opinions.... we all have them and they all vary. Why can't we all agree to disagree? :shock:
I don't think it's fair to compare MJ to Uli either, but I have my preference and others have theirs. It is what it is! :wink:
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Unread postby Gość » March 20th, 2012, 11:39 am

victory*rawks wrote:I missed my friends on here, but really I didn't miss the bad stuff on here. ;-P You know what I mean!! lol

Yes, I do :roll: :mrgreen:
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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby Scottss8 » March 20th, 2012, 5:46 pm

WilhelmSc wrote:Herman was PERFECT for the 70s and 80s. But James is better for these days. I was listening to No One Like You in Wacken played by Herman and it sounded too dry for me. James does much better job on this song for 2012 than Herman. James' sound is more full.

But thats my own opinion :p


but you have to remember Herman was using James drumkit for the Wacken show. James drums seem to be turned down a bit live in concert these days compared to back in the 80's with Herman playing on his drums. You talk to any drummer and they prefer using their own kits.

both drummers are great..i just prefer Herman's songwriting from the 80's.
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Re: Rarebell vs Kottak - Herman can for sure keep up with Ja

Unread postby Thomas » March 21st, 2012, 12:54 am

Shane wrote:Hi everyone:

First question I'd pose to anyone . . . . why does everything have to become a competition? Obviously, Herman Rarebell was a huge part of the Scorpions for many, many years. He was awesome!

But James Kottak is a nice guy, has reached out to hundreds, if not thousands of fans - having offered his personal e-mail account in the past, brings a tremendous amount of energy (and talent!) to the band, has ALSO helped write songs and music for the band, and is an incredible positive force. I feel that in posing these comparisons, it unfairly takes something away from the other person.

It's really not fair to either drummer - and I feel it will help those "dyed in the wool" Herman Rarebell fans to watch Acoustica, listen to some of the Scorps' recent work . . . James has definitely earned respect as being a part of the band.

Shane


Speaking of Drums ..
Thats an UPBEAT post Shane :text-bravo:
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