Thanks Scorpions.. NOT

by **Deleted User 13688** » April 19th, 2012, 9:05 pm

@Dasha, I know how sensitive a person you are and understand how this has upset you. However, this stuff has been going on for years. Well since this website came to be.....just look at the archives. I know that you love them, so do those who are "cruel and mean". Believe me, emotions are voiced on here out of human frustration. But they still love the boys, why do you think the old time fans are so disgusted and disappointed and some have the need to voice that to their fave band. It's part of life my luv!! You must accept it in this world sweetie, I'm afraid, or go crazy. Okay wait, no you don't have to ACCEPT it, but you have to RECEIVE it as being part of life. Please try to understand what I'm saying babes. I love you little one, I don't want to see you so upset over sthg that is just LIFE.

by **cloervr42** » April 19th, 2012, 9:20 pm

WHAT ABOUT AUSTRALIA OR THE REST OF CANADA?? I know that there will be more dates added, but they (not Scorps themselves) are sure taking their time posting them and it's pissing off the fans!! What part of that is okay? sigh...

Out of one side of her mouth...

@Dasha, I know how sensitive a person you are and understand how this has upset you. However, this stuff has been going on for years. Well since this website came to be.....just look at the archives. I know that you love them, so do those who are "cruel and mean". Believe me, emotions are voiced on here out of human frustration. But they still love the boys, why do you think the old time fans are so disgusted and disappointed and some have the need to voice that to their fave band. It's part of life my luv!! You must accept it in this world sweetie, I'm afraid, or go crazy. Okay wait, no you don't have to ACCEPT it, but you have to RECEIVE it as being part of life. Please try to understand what I'm saying babes. I love you little one, I don't want to see you so upset over sthg that is just LIFE.

Out of the other side of her mouth...

by **oldscorpsfan75** » April 19th, 2012, 9:32 pm

Engel-Wegweiser wrote:Cristy, I'm just really done with all these f*cking (sorry for my french) comments about the band both from russian social network and from here. I just can't understand why people are so cruel. Why do they forget all the time that Scorpions is 5 men who are human beings aswell as we are? I'm a part of the beginning band and I already know what it is - to perform, to make a program for the show and so on. It is NOT as easy as it seems at first sight. But people don't want to understand it, they consider the band as an automan: I'm giving a coin - and you please make everything to satisfy me! Pfff... I do understand that Scorpions are used to it, but I can't understand it MYSELF why people are so selfish, cruel and mean!

Btw we keep alive the band with our money.....maybe you don't understand they are closing their wonderful career in the worst way possible,they are losing the fans like coby123 wrote,but evidently they don't care about us anymore....I think USA tourdates are very very poor,take a look at Iron Maiden' ones...why Scorpions not?And you have to think that this is the LAST tour and the fans MUST deserve something better: we don't pretend the same attitude of 80's and 90's but personally I just wanted to see one little final "effort" from the band....most of us are disappointed by what the band is doing....this is a fact

sad but true :cry:

by **Deleted User 13688** » April 19th, 2012, 9:41 pm

cloervr42 wrote:
WHAT ABOUT AUSTRALIA OR THE REST OF CANADA?? I know that there will be more dates added, but they (not Scorps themselves) are sure taking their time posting them and it's pissing off the fans!! What part of that is okay? sigh...

Out of one side of her mouth...

@Dasha, I know how sensitive a person you are and understand how this has upset you. However, this stuff has been going on for years. Well since this website came to be.....just look at the archives. I know that you love them, so do those who are "cruel and mean". Believe me, emotions are voiced on here out of human frustration. But they still love the boys, why do you think the old time fans are so disgusted and disappointed and some have the need to voice that to their fave band. It's part of life my luv!! You must accept it in this world sweetie, I'm afraid, or go crazy. Okay wait, no you don't have to ACCEPT it, but you have to RECEIVE it as being part of life. Please try to understand what I'm saying babes. I love you little one, I don't want to see you so upset over sthg that is just LIFE.

Out of the other side of her mouth...

huh?

by **cloervr42** » April 19th, 2012, 10:17 pm

huh?

I reply to this statement as I am doubled over with laughter! Don't act dim-witted; you know you bash the band too whenever they don't do what you think they should; then to speak of it like you are on the other side of that fence is total hypocrisy...

by **Deleted User 13688** » April 20th, 2012, 12:47 am

Yes I admit that I get frustrated and angry and I say things, but I also KNOW that the band is not responsible for certain issues and that is one of them. Also, I did NOT know until Matthias told me that they didn't ever know the prices of the tickets. And now I do. Another thing, my post about them putting the tourdates up for the entire summer here in N.A. was not towards them or Wolfgang, it was towards management. Sthg that I didn't think I had to explain or defend. And yet here we are again.....

But gosh, why are you on here bashing me when I speak of things that so many others do? Please just ignore what I say if you can't be nice. kay? I am going to respect Sherry's request and that is to keep it civil with the other members on here, including you whoever you are. Now if I am frustrated and I rant, that is my personality and I get things out, I am a reactive person and certain members of the band AND on here KNOW that about me and they never bash me or turn on me for it. So please do the same. Thank you.

NOW PLEASE LET'S KEEP IT TO THE SUBJECT AND NOT ATTACK EACH OTHER!! :dance:

by **ChopStixx** » April 20th, 2012, 1:27 am

No One Will Ever Be Satisfied, Everyone Will always Complain. Take it or leave it.

by **Engel-Wegweiser** » April 20th, 2012, 10:49 am

Oh, the matter is that if everything will be even far more better than it is now, you will find reasont to complain anyway.
OK, I don't want to continue this conversation. Just because I know that I won't change anything with it. LOVE to everyone! =)

by **cloervr42** » April 20th, 2012, 2:48 pm

But gosh, why are you on here bashing me when I speak of things that so many others do?

Pointing out truth is different than "bashing" someone...

Now if I am frustrated and I rant, that is my personality and I get things out, I am a reactive person and certain members of the band AND on here KNOW that about me and they never bash me or turn on me for it.

Now if I am frustrated and decide I want to call people out on their hypocrisy, that is my personality and I get that out, I am too a reactive person and am allowed to express myself the same as you CHRISTY...

And just because the band doesn't turn on you for your actions doesn't make your actions right...It actually speaks volumes about how much class the band has to put up with that crap from you...

by **Deleted User 13688** » April 20th, 2012, 5:29 pm

Well reacting to you, whoever you are, isn't going to change anything, like Dasha says. So I am just not going to engage you anymore. So, please do me a favor and leave me alone. I will continue to speak my mind when I wish and you can disagree whenever you please as long as it's a friendly and MEANINGFUL debate that makes intelligent sense. Otherwise, just cuz you hate me doesn't give you the right to continue to attack me. And I'm sorry that you have a problem with a couple members, whom by the way are extremely intelligent and savvy enough to see real (after all they have been around and seen it all in the last 3-4 decades). I am just blessed for my friends and acquaintances that care for me.

BTW why don't you expose yourself? Who are you? I would love to know who I am not to trust. Thank you. :wink:

And one more thing, if you have a problem with what I say, which is just like what so many others are saying, then please by all means, call THEM out too!! kay? Be an equal opportunity basher! :lol:

Now I am done with you.

SHERRY, I THOT THAT THIS SORT OF THING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OVER. ?? CAN YOU PLEASE STOP THIS PERSON? THANK YOU. I AM HERE CUZ YOU BROUGHT ME BACK IN AND I HAVE NO BEEF WITH ANYONE. SO PLEASE INFORM THIS PERSON THAT THIS IS NOT A PLACE FOR HATE TOWARDS EACH OTHER!! THANKS SO MUCH. :wink:

Me? I'm just defending myself. But I wish this was just over once and for all!!!!!!

by **ScorpsDiva** » April 20th, 2012, 6:51 pm

victory*rawks wrote:SHERRY, I THOT THAT THIS SORT OF THING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OVER. ?? CAN YOU PLEASE STOP THIS PERSON? THANK YOU. I AM HERE CUZ YOU BROUGHT ME BACK IN AND I HAVE NO BEEF WITH ANYONE. SO PLEASE INFORM THIS PERSON THAT THIS IS NOT A PLACE FOR HATE TOWARDS EACH OTHER!! THANKS SO MUCH. Me? I'm just defending myself. But I wish this was just over once and for all!!!!!!

Cristy, since you addressed me here as well, I will reply. You MUST report the topic in the correct manner by hitting the report button There is more than just me that works this forum so reporting any topic you want to report privately is not appropriate. In your report please list the specific reason you have a problem with any post you report! You need to know that with your history of dislike for me it is most likely that the report will be handeled by another member of the forum support team, other than myself. I will also forward this to Wolfgang for you.

Keep Rockin
:dance:

Sherry

by **Deleted User 13688** » April 20th, 2012, 6:55 pm

ScorpsDiva wrote:
victory*rawks wrote:SHERRY, I THOT THAT THIS SORT OF THING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OVER. ?? CAN YOU PLEASE STOP THIS PERSON? THANK YOU. I AM HERE CUZ YOU BROUGHT ME BACK IN AND I HAVE NO BEEF WITH ANYONE. SO PLEASE INFORM THIS PERSON THAT THIS IS NOT A PLACE FOR HATE TOWARDS EACH OTHER!! THANKS SO MUCH. Me? I'm just defending myself. But I wish this was just over once and for all!!!!!!

Cristy, since you addressed me here as well, I will reply. You MUST report the topic in the correct manner by hitting the report button There is more than just me that works this forum so reporting any topic you want to report privately is not appropriate. In your report please list the specific reason you have a problem with any post you report! You need to know that with your history of dislike for me it is most likely that the report will be handeled by another member of the forum support team, other than myself. I will also forward this to Wolfgang for you.

Keep Rockin

Sherry

Welll as I told you in a PM, I did report it properly. I just haven't heard anything back, so I wasn't sure how else to report it. But I truly wish our private grievances hadn't been posted publically.

But it's all good.

Thanks for addressing the issue.

by **ScorpsDiva** » April 20th, 2012, 7:04 pm

victory*rawks wrote: Welll as I told you in a PM, I did report it properly. I just haven't heard anything back, so I wasn't sure how else to report it. But I truly wish our private grievances hadn't been posted publically. But it's all good. Thanks for addressing the issue.

I addressed you pubically because you adressed me pubically asking for my assistance. (see posts above where you directed this entire subject to me by using my name). I would have never done that had you only contacted me privately.

Keep Rockin

Sherry

by **Deleted User 13688** » April 20th, 2012, 7:09 pm

ScorpsDiva wrote:
victory*rawks wrote: Welll as I told you in a PM, I did report it properly. I just haven't heard anything back, so I wasn't sure how else to report it. But I truly wish our private grievances hadn't been posted publically. But it's all good. Thanks for addressing the issue.

I addressed you pubically because you adressed me pubically asking for my assistance. (see posts above where you directed this entire subject to me by using my name). I would have never done that had you only contacted me privately.

Keep Rockin

Sherry

I was talking about mentioning our PERSONAL issues with each other, but it's all good. I'm not well enuf to deal today, but thanks for PMing me.

by **ScorpsDiva** » April 20th, 2012, 7:29 pm

victory*rawks wrote:I was talking about mentioning our PERSONAL issues with each other, but it's all good. I'm not well enuf to deal today, but thanks for PMing me.

Ok girl, I understand ... and for me this is a good example of why another person will handle the report you sent in. It apprears that even in this case, you have found a reason that I have done something wrong which was not my intention.

No problem and no hurt feelings on my part but I do not have time to go back and forth with you over and over and over so I will not be replying to you again regarding this issue. If your report is not addressed within a few days then please contact Wolfgang directly.

Keep Rockin

Sherry

by **cloervr42** » April 20th, 2012, 8:31 pm

Well reacting to you, whoever you are, isn't going to change anything, like Dasha says. So I am just not going to engage you anymore. So, please do me a favor and leave me alone.

I will "leave you alone" in this post after I respond to a few assumptions you've made all on your own in your reply to me.

I will continue to speak my mind when I wish and you can disagree whenever you please as long as it's a friendly and MEANINGFUL debate that makes intelligent sense.

You and I differ greatly on our opinions of what we consider a meaningful and intelligent debate so "leaving you alone" in the future may be difficult, as I will continue to call you out on posts you put up that I disagree with and find hypocritical.

Otherwise, just cuz you hate me doesn't give you the right to continue to attack me.

As far as hating you, that is a blatant false accusation; and I take offense to that statement. If I hated you my post would have included some name calling and probably some curse words, etc. none of which appear in any of my posts. I called it like I saw it; sometimes the truth can be painful on the receiving end.

And one more thing, if you have a problem with what I say, which is just like what so many others are saying, then please by all means, call THEM out too!! kay? Be an equal opportunity basher!

As far as defending your accusation of specifically targeting you; don't flatter yourself. I have and will continue to reply to posts that I disagree with; alot will probably be yours (you and I disagree on alot of ground) but I have replied to others also. If you missed those then that is just too bad for you.

BTW why don't you expose yourself? Who are you?

Who am I? A long time fan of the Scorpions just like you who has the right to come on the forum and post my opinions wherever I like.

by **Deleted User 13688** » April 20th, 2012, 8:50 pm

ScorpsDiva wrote:
victory*rawks wrote:I was talking about mentioning our PERSONAL issues with each other, but it's all good. I'm not well enuf to deal today, but thanks for PMing me.

Ok girl, I understand ... and for me this is a good example of why another person will handle the report you sent in. It apprears that even in this case, you have found a reason that I have done something wrong which was not my intention. No problem and no hurt feelings on my part but I do not have time to go back and forth with you over and over and over so I will not be replying to you again regarding this issue. If your report is not addressed within a few days then please contact Wolfgang directly.

Keep Rockin

Sherry

Sorry, but this is a perfect example of the problem with the written word as compared to the spoken word, is the lack of hearing the inflection of the voice. That wasn't meant to be a slam to you. Wish you could have heard how I said it in my head. :lol:

Let's forget it. kay? :wink:

by **Invitado** » April 20th, 2012, 9:05 pm

With all due respect, I don`t agree with the general point of view of this subject ...

" Btw we keep alive the band with our money....."

Yes you`re paying for a Cd or a show , and that`s all.

It doesn`t mean you own anything else from the band or their members. I assume you work and you get paid for it but no, your clients don`t have any other privilege over you than the transaction pact.

Dasha , getting frustrated is part of growing up, but is nice to see you raise your voice when you have a disagreement.

Michelle, I don`t think Cristy is hypocrite at all ...I think she always speaks her mind , and yes , she might have some trouble getting a unique point of view :lol:

and has more a hate/love relationship with the band.

However , it`s not nice to see people under attack. I think there a lot of ways to deliver the messages ... other than agression.

Cristy, just my humble opinion... instead of letting yourself get hooked by arguments .....avoid getting involved and don`t reply. They might come to an end, just with that action.

by **Deleted User 13688** » April 20th, 2012, 9:24 pm

That is EXACTLY what I intend to do from now on, Adriana!! Thx huney girl! The attacks will never stop on here OR Facebook, so I guess I just have to grow a thick skin and deaf ear and let them burn themselves out. :mrgreen:

As far as Dasha, I love her, but I think she doesn't realize that life is harder than she has any idea of yet. I wish for her to see the hardness of life and get a taste of reality. Cuz the stuff on here is kid stuff compared what she may come face to face with out there. And I pray that she can handle it, cuz she is precious.

As far as my love/hate thing with the band. I love the band, hate what they do and put us thru at times. :wink: