Originally posted by antonissomebody said that can't be a scorpions'gig without wind of change!!!!!!!that must be a joke!!!!why don't you ask those guys that were there(at Birmingham ),if it was a really scorpions consert or what?
....the scorpions were known years&years before that song and did great tours before that.ok,it huppened to be a hit at the begginig of 90s....so what,they have so many songs to play...and if we start saying there can't be a scorpions gig without this or that...then they'll keep on playing the same songs until the end of time....we've listened all those songs at their previous 7 conserts in greece.i think we DESERVE SOMETHING MORE.
I said that about Wind of Change! You know, personally I don't mind whatever songs they play... But Wind of Change is one of their Trademarks. Imagine how many people know Wind of Change and they'll come to the gig to listen That song and some other ballads! Scorpions don't want to disappoint them as well Don't get me wrong, I'd like some other songs in the list (and I repeat that I don't care about which ones they're gonna be) but Scorpions try to do something to satisfy both sides (fans and listeners).
So if they don't play Wind of Change or Still Loving You, some may be disappointed (because they'll go there just to listen to those songs!). On the other hand, I (for example) will be satisfied no matter which songs they play. (Well... I've only seen them three times though. I may start getting bored after the 7th one).
As regards with the 70s... Okay, there are some nice songs but please, they can't play more than a couple of songs from that era in my opinion. He's a Woman - She's a Man, Speedy's Coming, We'll Burn the Sky, Riot of Your Time, Top of the Bill, In Trance, Pictured life, Catch your Train, Robot Man. I believe they should play 2 songs of them maximum.
Whatever... I think they're gonna play some songs they haven't played here though... As far as I can remember there was a slight change between the 1996 and 2001 setlists (2004's was almost identical to 2001, right?). So there's gotta be something new now as well
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by ""Hammerhead"" » June 2nd, 2005, 9:53 pm
****in' top of the bill YEAH!With a drum solo.Groovy!!!MYRJAM Hey you is one of my favourites.
I really like to see I'm going mad live....mallon me tin kaula tha meino xxxxxx piperi...hehe.
I really like to see I'm going mad live....mallon me tin kaula tha meino xxxxxx piperi...hehe.
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by antonis » June 3rd, 2005, 7:04 am
...wind of change a scorpions trademark??????????but the scorpions were known years and years before that song...to tell me that we'll burn the sky,in trance,he's a woman,speedy's coming,coming home,no one like you,dynamite,blackout,pictured life,fly to the rainbow as trademarks is ok and don't forget that those trademarks are not played so often as wind of change....but wind of change?????that impresses me!a good concert with a good set list satisfies everybody...but we don't have to listen everytime the same songs over and over because there might be somebody who knows only a couple of songs and expects to listen to them!!!this is unfair for the rest 99.9% of the fans who expect something more....don't you think so?i've seen them 10 times and when it comes for the encore i always know what to expect...after the gig i'm always huppy,but the next day when i realise that i've seen again the'same show'i'm mad.
i hope(but i don't expect a lot)that something will be changed this time or i'll be very very dissapointed...
Originally posted by scorp18
Originally posted by antonissomebody said that can't be a scorpions'gig without wind of change!!!!!!!that must be a joke!!!!why don't you ask those guys that were there(at Birmingham ),if it was a really scorpions consert or what?
....the scorpions were known years&years before that song and did great tours before that.ok,it huppened to be a hit at the begginig of 90s....so what,they have so many songs to play...and if we start saying there can't be a scorpions gig without this or that...then they'll keep on playing the same songs until the end of time....we've listened all those songs at their previous 7 conserts in greece.i think we DESERVE SOMETHING MORE.
I said that about Wind of Change! You know, personally I don't mind whatever songs they play... But Wind of Change is one of their Trademarks. Imagine how many people know Wind of Change and they'll come to the gig to listen That song and some other ballads! Scorpions don't want to disappoint them as well Don't get me wrong, I'd like some other songs in the list (and I repeat that I don't care about which ones they're gonna be) but Scorpions try to do something to satisfy both sides (fans and listeners).
So if they don't play Wind of Change or Still Loving You, some may be disappointed (because they'll go there just to listen to those songs!). On the other hand, I (for example) will be satisfied no matter which songs they play. (Well... I've only seen them three times though. I may start getting bored after the 7th one).
As regards with the 70s... Okay, there are some nice songs but please, they can't play more than a couple of songs from that era in my opinion. He's a Woman - She's a Man, Speedy's Coming, We'll Burn the Sky, Riot of Your Time, Top of the Bill, In Trance, Pictured life, Catch your Train, Robot Man. I believe they should play 2 songs of them maximum.
Whatever... I think they're gonna play some songs they haven't played here though... As far as I can remember there was a slight change between the 1996 and 2001 setlists (2004's was almost identical to 2001, right?). So there's gotta be something new now as well
i hope(but i don't expect a lot)that something will be changed this time or i'll be very very dissapointed...
Originally posted by scorp18
Originally posted by antonissomebody said that can't be a scorpions'gig without wind of change!!!!!!!that must be a joke!!!!why don't you ask those guys that were there(at Birmingham ),if it was a really scorpions consert or what?
....the scorpions were known years&years before that song and did great tours before that.ok,it huppened to be a hit at the begginig of 90s....so what,they have so many songs to play...and if we start saying there can't be a scorpions gig without this or that...then they'll keep on playing the same songs until the end of time....we've listened all those songs at their previous 7 conserts in greece.i think we DESERVE SOMETHING MORE.
I said that about Wind of Change! You know, personally I don't mind whatever songs they play... But Wind of Change is one of their Trademarks. Imagine how many people know Wind of Change and they'll come to the gig to listen That song and some other ballads! Scorpions don't want to disappoint them as well Don't get me wrong, I'd like some other songs in the list (and I repeat that I don't care about which ones they're gonna be) but Scorpions try to do something to satisfy both sides (fans and listeners).
So if they don't play Wind of Change or Still Loving You, some may be disappointed (because they'll go there just to listen to those songs!). On the other hand, I (for example) will be satisfied no matter which songs they play. (Well... I've only seen them three times though. I may start getting bored after the 7th one).
As regards with the 70s... Okay, there are some nice songs but please, they can't play more than a couple of songs from that era in my opinion. He's a Woman - She's a Man, Speedy's Coming, We'll Burn the Sky, Riot of Your Time, Top of the Bill, In Trance, Pictured life, Catch your Train, Robot Man. I believe they should play 2 songs of them maximum.
Whatever... I think they're gonna play some songs they haven't played here though... As far as I can remember there was a slight change between the 1996 and 2001 setlists (2004's was almost identical to 2001, right?). So there's gotta be something new now as well
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by scorp18 » June 3rd, 2005, 11:07 am
Originally posted by antonis
...wind of change a scorpions trademark??????????but the scorpions were known years and years before that song...to tell me that we'll burn the sky,in trance,he's a woman,speedy's coming,coming home,no one like you,dynamite,blackout,pictured life,fly to the rainbow as trademarks is ok and don't forget that those trademarks are not played so often as wind of change....but wind of change?????that impresses me!a good concert with a good set list satisfies everybody...but we don't have to listen everytime the same songs over and over because there might be somebody who knows only a couple of songs and expects to listen to them!!!this is unfair for the rest 99.9% of the fans who expect something more....don't you think so?i've seen them 10 times and when it comes for the encore i always know what to expect...after the gig i'm always huppy,but the next day when i realise that i've seen again the'same show'i'm mad.
i hope(but i don't expect a lot)that something will be changed this time or i'll be very very dissapointed...
I didn't say they were not known before Wind of Change. And of course they had dozens of trademark songs before that one. But well... Let me explain in more details what I mean.
There are three kinds of fans for every band
1. The maniac/fanatic supporters of the band
2. Those who like the genre in general, so they also like the band
3. Those who like other genres but also like the most known songs of the band.
Scorpions had many very well known songs before Wind of Change. But WOC was the single which sold the most copies, ever (I think it still holds the record)! So for the first type of fans, almost every song can be a trademark. For the second type, the most known songs in the rock world can be trademarks. But for the third type of fans their trademark is WOC. So that's why I'm saying that THE trademark is WOC. (I capitalized THE to emphasize on it, not to "shout").
And then another topic comes. "Do they have to play that song only for those ones?" In my opinion this depends on how many of them will be at the concert. Personally I think that they will be equally many as the diehard fans and the rockfans...
Anyway, I might be the one who's wrong. This doesn't lead to anywhere... We might have the chance to talk about it once we meet.
...wind of change a scorpions trademark??????????but the scorpions were known years and years before that song...to tell me that we'll burn the sky,in trance,he's a woman,speedy's coming,coming home,no one like you,dynamite,blackout,pictured life,fly to the rainbow as trademarks is ok and don't forget that those trademarks are not played so often as wind of change....but wind of change?????that impresses me!a good concert with a good set list satisfies everybody...but we don't have to listen everytime the same songs over and over because there might be somebody who knows only a couple of songs and expects to listen to them!!!this is unfair for the rest 99.9% of the fans who expect something more....don't you think so?i've seen them 10 times and when it comes for the encore i always know what to expect...after the gig i'm always huppy,but the next day when i realise that i've seen again the'same show'i'm mad.
i hope(but i don't expect a lot)that something will be changed this time or i'll be very very dissapointed...
I didn't say they were not known before Wind of Change. And of course they had dozens of trademark songs before that one. But well... Let me explain in more details what I mean.
There are three kinds of fans for every band
1. The maniac/fanatic supporters of the band
2. Those who like the genre in general, so they also like the band
3. Those who like other genres but also like the most known songs of the band.
Scorpions had many very well known songs before Wind of Change. But WOC was the single which sold the most copies, ever (I think it still holds the record)! So for the first type of fans, almost every song can be a trademark. For the second type, the most known songs in the rock world can be trademarks. But for the third type of fans their trademark is WOC. So that's why I'm saying that THE trademark is WOC. (I capitalized THE to emphasize on it, not to "shout").
And then another topic comes. "Do they have to play that song only for those ones?" In my opinion this depends on how many of them will be at the concert. Personally I think that they will be equally many as the diehard fans and the rockfans...
Anyway, I might be the one who's wrong. This doesn't lead to anywhere... We might have the chance to talk about it once we meet.
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by MYRJAM » June 3rd, 2005, 11:18 am
Originally posted by ""Hammerhead""
****in' top of the bill YEAH!With a drum solo.Groovy!!!MYRJAM Hey you is one of my favourites.
I really like to see I'm going mad live....mallon me tin kaula tha meino xxxxxx piperi...hehe.
You too ""Hammerhead"" you are great .& ego dern pistevo oti tha paixoun live to i'm going mad.Try to be courageous.lolol
****in' top of the bill YEAH!With a drum solo.Groovy!!!MYRJAM Hey you is one of my favourites.
I really like to see I'm going mad live....mallon me tin kaula tha meino xxxxxx piperi...hehe.
You too ""Hammerhead"" you are great .& ego dern pistevo oti tha paixoun live to i'm going mad.Try to be courageous.lolol
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by aficionado » June 3rd, 2005, 12:47 pm
Scorp18, exw episimes plirofories oti den tha peksoun to Wind of change, to mono pou tha peksoun ine to Still Loving you. Ara, oso ke na prospathisis, den tha kataferis tipota giati to setlist exi idi bgei ke den prokete na peksoun to kommati gia parti sou...
Giafto boulose to ligo gia exis dimiourgisi ena klima esxous safto to forum ke poli mou lene oti enoxlis me tin stasi sou ke tin epimoni sou pano safto to thema.
Se parakalw lipon, stamata an thelis na minis member tou forum.
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Giafto boulose to ligo gia exis dimiourgisi ena klima esxous safto to forum ke poli mou lene oti enoxlis me tin stasi sou ke tin epimoni sou pano safto to thema.
Se parakalw lipon, stamata an thelis na minis member tou forum.
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by antonis » June 3rd, 2005, 12:53 pm
well,i agree with your last words....B U T you have always to remember that the majority of scorpions fans got into their music during the '80's when no wind of change was around.......DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY LOYAL SCORPIONS FANS HAVE BEEN ALL THOSE YEARS DISSAPOINTED BY THE SET LIST OF THE BAND????do you know how many fans and i am one of those had no one like you,or in trance,or fly to the rainbow as the first scorpions'song they ever heard and became fans of scorpions and hard rock?i had to travel to poland to listen finally no one like you and to germany to listen lovedrive......no i don't want to listen wind of change or ypu&i or even still loving you.....i've had enough....on the other hand we heard those songs one year ago.......WE DESERVE SOMETHING MORE......I INSIST......
Originally posted by scorp18
Originally posted by antonis
...wind of change a scorpions trademark??????????but the scorpions were known years and years before that song...to tell me that we'll burn the sky,in trance,he's a woman,speedy's coming,coming home,no one like you,dynamite,blackout,pictured life,fly to the rainbow as trademarks is ok and don't forget that those trademarks are not played so often as wind of change....but wind of change?????that impresses me!a good concert with a good set list satisfies everybody...but we don't have to listen everytime the same songs over and over because there might be somebody who knows only a couple of songs and expects to listen to them!!!this is unfair for the rest 99.9% of the fans who expect something more....don't you think so?i've seen them 10 times and when it comes for the encore i always know what to expect...after the gig i'm always huppy,but the next day when i realise that i've seen again the'same show'i'm mad.
i hope(but i don't expect a lot)that something will be changed this time or i'll be very very dissapointed...
I didn't say they were not known before Wind of Change. And of course they had dozens of trademark songs before that one. But well... Let me explain in more details what I mean.
There are three kinds of fans for every band
1. The maniac/fanatic supporters of the band
2. Those who like the genre in general, so they also like the band
3. Those who like other genres but also like the most known songs of the band.
Scorpions had many very well known songs before Wind of Change. But WOC was the single which sold the most copies, ever (I think it still holds the record)! So for the first type of fans, almost every song can be a trademark. For the second type, the most known songs in the rock world can be trademarks. But for the third type of fans their trademark is WOC. So that's why I'm saying that THE trademark is WOC. (I capitalized THE to emphasize on it, not to "shout").
And then another topic comes. "Do they have to play that song only for those ones?" In my opinion this depends on how many of them will be at the concert. Personally I think that they will be equally many as the diehard fans and the rockfans...
Anyway, I might be the one who's wrong. This doesn't lead to anywhere... We might have the chance to talk about it once we meet.
Originally posted by scorp18
Originally posted by antonis
...wind of change a scorpions trademark??????????but the scorpions were known years and years before that song...to tell me that we'll burn the sky,in trance,he's a woman,speedy's coming,coming home,no one like you,dynamite,blackout,pictured life,fly to the rainbow as trademarks is ok and don't forget that those trademarks are not played so often as wind of change....but wind of change?????that impresses me!a good concert with a good set list satisfies everybody...but we don't have to listen everytime the same songs over and over because there might be somebody who knows only a couple of songs and expects to listen to them!!!this is unfair for the rest 99.9% of the fans who expect something more....don't you think so?i've seen them 10 times and when it comes for the encore i always know what to expect...after the gig i'm always huppy,but the next day when i realise that i've seen again the'same show'i'm mad.
i hope(but i don't expect a lot)that something will be changed this time or i'll be very very dissapointed...
I didn't say they were not known before Wind of Change. And of course they had dozens of trademark songs before that one. But well... Let me explain in more details what I mean.
There are three kinds of fans for every band
1. The maniac/fanatic supporters of the band
2. Those who like the genre in general, so they also like the band
3. Those who like other genres but also like the most known songs of the band.
Scorpions had many very well known songs before Wind of Change. But WOC was the single which sold the most copies, ever (I think it still holds the record)! So for the first type of fans, almost every song can be a trademark. For the second type, the most known songs in the rock world can be trademarks. But for the third type of fans their trademark is WOC. So that's why I'm saying that THE trademark is WOC. (I capitalized THE to emphasize on it, not to "shout").
And then another topic comes. "Do they have to play that song only for those ones?" In my opinion this depends on how many of them will be at the concert. Personally I think that they will be equally many as the diehard fans and the rockfans...
Anyway, I might be the one who's wrong. This doesn't lead to anywhere... We might have the chance to talk about it once we meet.
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by nikos » June 3rd, 2005, 5:05 pm
The sons I prefer for the concert are the following:
-Alien Nation
-Wind of Change
-You and I
-Under the Same Sun
-In Trance
-Coast Coast
-Catch Your Train
-Rock You Like a Hurricane
-Big City Nights
-Holiday
-New Generation
-We 'll Burn the Sky
-Always Somewhere
-Alien Nation
-Wind of Change
-You and I
-Under the Same Sun
-In Trance
-Coast Coast
-Catch Your Train
-Rock You Like a Hurricane
-Big City Nights
-Holiday
-New Generation
-We 'll Burn the Sky
-Always Somewhere
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by ""Hammerhead"" » June 3rd, 2005, 7:07 pm
loipon as ta xoso kai ego.genika oxi pros ton scorp18 siggekrimena.
Re sta yperfisika paparia mas o kathe malakas pou tha paei na akousei to wind of change.St'arxidia mou.Ego tous akouo 11 xronia kai ta skao gia tin parti tous kai tous exo kanei theous kai tous kano kai diafimisi sta filarakia mou kai ferno kai kosmo stis sinaulies tous kai sta party tous kai kano tis gommenes na agorazoun ta cd tous.Kai oxi mono axizo ena oraio set list alla mi sou po kai ena show mono gia emena.(xa megali idea den exo gia ton eauto mou???)Kai gia na ta xoso akoma,akoma kai an mou ta xosoun argotera kapoioi alloi kalitera tha einai na sebontai tous fan tous oi scorpions kai oxi tous ypoloipous.O noon noito.kathe xrono ta idia kai ta idia.E oxi re den ti brisko pleon me to rock you like a hurricane.Paix'te to no one like you.
ouf to eipa kai xethimana.
loipon terma auto to topic mas teleiose.kai mlk einai auto to vote giati to set list exei bgei kai pipes na paroume den prokeite na allaxei.ante geia.exo diabasma kai kathomai kai mlkizomai.
aficionado pos brethikes ekei kato esi?
Cheers!
Re sta yperfisika paparia mas o kathe malakas pou tha paei na akousei to wind of change.St'arxidia mou.Ego tous akouo 11 xronia kai ta skao gia tin parti tous kai tous exo kanei theous kai tous kano kai diafimisi sta filarakia mou kai ferno kai kosmo stis sinaulies tous kai sta party tous kai kano tis gommenes na agorazoun ta cd tous.Kai oxi mono axizo ena oraio set list alla mi sou po kai ena show mono gia emena.(xa megali idea den exo gia ton eauto mou???)Kai gia na ta xoso akoma,akoma kai an mou ta xosoun argotera kapoioi alloi kalitera tha einai na sebontai tous fan tous oi scorpions kai oxi tous ypoloipous.O noon noito.kathe xrono ta idia kai ta idia.E oxi re den ti brisko pleon me to rock you like a hurricane.Paix'te to no one like you.
ouf to eipa kai xethimana.
loipon terma auto to topic mas teleiose.kai mlk einai auto to vote giati to set list exei bgei kai pipes na paroume den prokeite na allaxei.ante geia.exo diabasma kai kathomai kai mlkizomai.
aficionado pos brethikes ekei kato esi?
Cheers!
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by rainbowkiller » June 3rd, 2005, 8:31 pm
Songs to cut a brain and to sting my heart...
Bad Boys
Hit Between the Eyes
The Zoo
We'll Burn the Sky
No One Like You
Coast to Coast
Hold Me Tight
Someone to Touch
No Pain No Gain
Big City Nights
Blackout
Dynamite
Rock You Like a Hurricane!
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Holiday
Born to Touch Your Feelings
Still Loving You
Wind of Change
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When the Smoke is Going Down...........
Bad Boys
Hit Between the Eyes
The Zoo
We'll Burn the Sky
No One Like You
Coast to Coast
Hold Me Tight
Someone to Touch
No Pain No Gain
Big City Nights
Blackout
Dynamite
Rock You Like a Hurricane!
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Holiday
Born to Touch Your Feelings
Still Loving You
Wind of Change
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When the Smoke is Going Down...........
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by antonis » June 4th, 2005, 6:53 pm
i hope that one day i'll see a scorpions concert with a set list that will cover ALL THEIR HISTORY...and now's the perfect time since they're about to release an 'historical'dvd and since they'promoted just lust year unbreakable,so now they can change a lot the usual set list
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by ""Hammerhead"" » June 4th, 2005, 7:20 pm
historical xoris I'm going mad den ginetai (........em o kollimenos....hehehehehehe)
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by scorp18 » June 7th, 2005, 1:54 pm
Originally posted by aficionado
Scorp18, exw episimes plirofories oti den tha peksoun to Wind of change, to mono pou tha peksoun ine to Still Loving you. Ara, oso ke na prospathisis, den tha kataferis tipota giati to setlist exi idi bgei ke den prokete na peksoun to kommati gia parti sou...
Giafto boulose to ligo gia exis dimiourgisi ena klima esxous safto to forum ke poli mou lene oti enoxlis me tin stasi sou ke tin epimoni sou pano safto to thema.
Se parakalw lipon, stamata an thelis na minis member tou forum.
Filika
Aficionado
Eleos re paidia, ti prospathw? Eipa na paiksoun to wind of change gia parti mou? Kati den katalaves kala nomizw... Anyway, poly to zalisame to thema (eidika otan exei vgei hdh h playlist opws eipes). Opoios katalave ti ennow, kalws. Kai opoios diafwnei, pali kalws. Magia tou kai kamari tou.
Kai poio klima aisxous? Pame kala? Sto katw katw opoios enoxleitai epeidei egw lew ayta pou lew, kako tou kefaliou tou. Diladi, kai malakies na lew, giati na katsei o kathenas na skasei gia tin parti mou?
Oso gia to an thelw na meinw melos tou forum, einai ligo akyro... Diladi tha ginw "ban" epeidei eipa osa eipa? Den einai ligo koufo? Xalarwste re seis, kouventa kanoume...
Antoni, symfwnw me osa les. Mallon kapoios apo tous dyo mas katalave lathos ton allo... Elpizw na ta poume kapoia stigmh apo konta.
PS: Sorry kiolas, mporeite na mou peite poioi kai giati enoxlithikate? Estw se pm.
Scorp18, exw episimes plirofories oti den tha peksoun to Wind of change, to mono pou tha peksoun ine to Still Loving you. Ara, oso ke na prospathisis, den tha kataferis tipota giati to setlist exi idi bgei ke den prokete na peksoun to kommati gia parti sou...
Giafto boulose to ligo gia exis dimiourgisi ena klima esxous safto to forum ke poli mou lene oti enoxlis me tin stasi sou ke tin epimoni sou pano safto to thema.
Se parakalw lipon, stamata an thelis na minis member tou forum.
Filika
Aficionado
Eleos re paidia, ti prospathw? Eipa na paiksoun to wind of change gia parti mou? Kati den katalaves kala nomizw... Anyway, poly to zalisame to thema (eidika otan exei vgei hdh h playlist opws eipes). Opoios katalave ti ennow, kalws. Kai opoios diafwnei, pali kalws. Magia tou kai kamari tou.
Kai poio klima aisxous? Pame kala? Sto katw katw opoios enoxleitai epeidei egw lew ayta pou lew, kako tou kefaliou tou. Diladi, kai malakies na lew, giati na katsei o kathenas na skasei gia tin parti mou?
Oso gia to an thelw na meinw melos tou forum, einai ligo akyro... Diladi tha ginw "ban" epeidei eipa osa eipa? Den einai ligo koufo? Xalarwste re seis, kouventa kanoume...
Antoni, symfwnw me osa les. Mallon kapoios apo tous dyo mas katalave lathos ton allo... Elpizw na ta poume kapoia stigmh apo konta.
PS: Sorry kiolas, mporeite na mou peite poioi kai giati enoxlithikate? Estw se pm.
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